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[edit] Category for "Meta-Trek" (name to be found)

An important category would be one collecting all articles we call "Meta-Trek". This category would be the supercategory for categories such as "Episodes", "Movies", "Performers", but should also be used to collect the various articles about Star Trek as a franchise (including the "List of Trek actors birthdays", the "List of 47 references" etc.). I don't really like the title "Meta-Trek" as a name for this category, though. I'd like to suggest Category:Production information, but perhaps you can think of a better title? -- Cid Highwind 11:46, 2005 Jan 20 (CET)

Production information is fine by me. Or perhaps something like Category:About Star Trek? -- Harry 20:33, 20 Jan 2005 (CET)
I agree that we need to group "Episodes." "Movies," "Books," together. I suggest Category:Source Media. Everything here is about Star Trek. Drhaggis 02:20, 22 Jan 2005 (CET)
Let's simplify that -- either Category:Sources or Category:Media -- if we choose "sources" for all of our canon episodes and productions, then media can be all other forms of star trek: licensed novels; games; and comics; as well as the various companies that make them. -- Captain Mike K. Bartel 02:24, 22 Jan 2005 (CET)
Splitting canon from non-canon is a must. Should we include that distiction in the category? Category:Canon Sources and Category:Additional Media perhaps? Too much? Drhaggis 03:06, 22 Jan 2005 (CET)

Since "canon" isn't a concept we have to define (although a definition of it is reprinted here), and since we already have a page defining valid resources, I don't really see the logic in adding this concept to the suggestion of a category to simply distinguish "in-universe" from "out-of-universe" articles. Keep in mind that a "Canon source" category couldn't simply include the "Episodes" category, for example, because that one contains the "non-canon" TAS episodes. By the way, the canon policy page uses the term Trek franchise - we could either use that one as our category name or should change that page to contain the name we choose here. -- Cid Highwind 00:08, 2005 Jan 23 (CET)

Any other opinions? After thinking about it again, I prefer Trek franchise to the earlier suggestion Production information - it better matches the intended scope of the category as a collection of everything that is not in-universe (and it is a term already used elsewhere). About Star Trek is a close contender. -- Cid Highwind 21:51, 2005 Jan 27 (CET)

Any votes or should

suggestions be archived or resubmitted? -- Captain Mike K. Bartel 17:43, 16 Mar 2005 (EST)

This discussion has become a little off-topic I think. If we can reach consensus to create either Trek franchise or Production information, we should do so. Otherwise, archive this discussion for the moment. -- Cid Highwind 08:43, 21 Mar 2005 (EST)
I'd like to call a quick vote here for a new idea i had before this is potentially shelved -- how about Category:Star Trek -- this category would simply use the name of the franchise as a whole .. "Star Trek" -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk 10:44, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)

[edit] Meta Trek: Category:Star Trek

Our production information category, for all "out of universe" POV articles about the franchise. -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk 02:07, 12 Apr 2005 (EDT)

[edit] Category:Real world POV

moved from category suggestions.

To put on the "RealWorld" template, as I've seen it pop up on several articles that it shouldn't, and as far as I can tell There's no way to keep track of where it is. - AJ Halliwell 06:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

We already have Category:Star Trek, a category that was first suggested as Category for "Meta-Trek" (name to be found), then agreed upon using that name as production information category, for all "out of universe" POV articles about the franchise. The "Realworld" template also was initially suggested as a template for "Meta-Trek" articles, so that template and the existing category should be placed on the same pages - ideally by replacing existing category links with the template first and then adding the category to the template. I oppose creating yet another category just because there's a controversy about what exactly might constitute "Meta-Trek"... -- Cid Highwind 11:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Note: The "Star Trek" category already has several sub-categories, so perhaps it should not be added automatically by the template. It's safe to say, however, that any article that is in "Star Trek", or a subcategory of that, should probably have the "Meta Trek"/"Production"/"Realworld" template. -- Cid Highwind 11:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I wasn't involved in that particular political debate- I just want a way to see what pages have the Template on them (such as the PNA articles) because I know of at least two episodes they've been added to, several novels, and some things that should be from an In-universe POV. (IE: If someone put the Realworld template on Cardassia.) I know Cardassia doesn't constitute "Meta-Trek"... - AJ Halliwell 11:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

And now you're officially a part of that debate... because others think that this template should be added to all novel and episode pages, for example. Congratulations... ;)
On the other hand, I don't think categories are generally a good idea if the rationale for them is "to find out on which pages a template doesn't belong". I think the "What links here" of that template would be a much better tool (that doesn't confuse readers at the same time) in this case. -- Cid Highwind 11:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Archived. --Alan del Beccio 05:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
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