Talk:Breaking the Ice (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 First Vulcan ship? 3 Background 4 Pronunciaton error 5 Removed

[edit] First Vulcan ship?

By what chronology can the Vulcan starship here be the first seen in all Star Trek? The one in Star Trek: First Contact is earlier by the in-universe chronology, and certainly TOS showed Vulcan ships sooner by any external airdate or production chronology. I'm missing the logic here. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.166.236.61 (talk).

I don't think we actually saw Vulcan ships in TOS (at least not that I can recall). First time I remember seeing "Vulcan ships" was "Unification II". That still is before this episode in airtime. Thing is, those were just transports, and the ship in First Contact was a small survey ship/lander. This is the first time we see a "major" starship. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 04:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Also "For the Cause", but most notably Star Trek: The Motion Picture. But essentially, as is discussed in the article on creating the Suurok class design, this is the "first significant Vulcan starship design to appear in the Star Trek series. In designing the Suurok-class, Drexler felt a ship for the Vulcans, one of the primary species that define Star Trek, should be as memorable as possible."--Alan 14:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Background

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• Reed and Mayweather made some enhancements to their snowman between the time Archer catches them and Reed sets off the charges. Their addition: a set of Vulcan ears.
• The dinner with Captain Vanik has some commonality with the state dinner held on the USS Enterprise-A by Kirk and crew in honor of Klingon Chancellor Gorkon in 2293. (Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country)

The first reference isn't at all a background note, the second is borderline irrelevant because I'm sure someone can find numerous similarities between numerous Star Trek scenes if you look hard enough. What would make such a comment noteworthy would be some inline support that Scene A was an inspiration for Scene B. --Alan 14:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciaton error

Just pointing out that Capt. Archer mis-pronounces the name of "Kenmare". – 78.16.34.15 13:33, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Removed

• Before Reed and Mayweather trigger an explosion on the comet, Archer makes a point of telling the nearby Vulcan ship that they are about to make a "loud noise". Sound cannot travel in a vacuum.

Nitpick. --31dot 10:54, October 2, 2009 (UTC)