Talk:Caretaker (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Who was in command when Janeway led the second away team to the Array? 3 B'Elanna 4 Morn's Mouth 5 Background information: Actors who've played the same character in 3 trek series 6 USS Voyager set lighting 7 2 Episodes?

[edit] Who was in command when Janeway led the second away team to the Array?

Rollins was in command when Janeway led the previous three away teams. But was Rollins or Kim in command when Janeway and Tuvok went aboard the Array near the end of the episode?

[edit] B'Elanna

I wasn't sure if this is appropriate as part of the article, but whenever I watch the pilot this really sticks out to me, so I wanted other folks' opinion on it: "Series fans may note that B'Elanna's makeup is far more pronounced in this episode than it is in subsequent episodes; in addition, she and the rest of the crew place far more emphasis on the first syllable of her name (pronouncing it "BAY-lanna")."

Obviously, characters change a bit between the pilot and subsequent episodes in every series, particularly in terms of makeup (I'm pretty sure both Data and Quark had heavier makeup in the pilot than later), so is it significant enough to include? Gregly 18:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Morn's Mouth

• It is also the only time in any Star Trek series that Morn has his mouth opened to the extent it is.

Someone seems intent on adding this information - I'd say that he also has it open just as wide while he's talking with other patrons in DS9: "Emissary". Either way it's simply pointless information. But due to stop an edit war this can be discussed here. — Morder 22:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

As relates to this, since it has become something of an edit war, I've protected the page for the moment. -- Sulfur 22:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Morder is quite correct- pointless information. Where would it end? The first time Janeway flips her hair? The first time Chakotay says the word "the"? We don't need that kind of information.--31dot 22:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm also not sure it is true. A quick look at the bar scene in Trekcore, and all I saw was the back of Morn's head. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 23:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

His mouth is really open quite wide [1] in the first scene with harry kim & quark. But so what? Wow...he's in awe... :) — Morder 23:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

For those who don't understand the significance of my statement, you need to watch the entire DS9 series. It will then become clear that their is a major difference in significance between Chakotay saying the word "the" for the first time, and Morn having his mouth opened as I described. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.161.152.33 (talk).

But what significance is it? I've seen all of DS9 several times and that's so insignificant that it's simply not worth mentioning. Simply because it doesn't change his character at all. — Morder 00:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't answer that. Just understand that we don't want to note it. If it was the only time Morn ever had his mouth open the least bit, then, maybe we would. I agree with the first comment: in Emissary it's about the same. See [2]. And so this detail is both pointless and wrong and who the crap cares. --TribbleFurSuit 00:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I suppose it is but as usual to prevent the display of the inside of "Morn's" mouth or to prevent the display of an inconsistent mouth size, it was not a direct front shot. In the episode of the caretaker, it is.

I believe displaying at least an image of his mouth directly open would allow the audience to see something they've been waiting for. Every time Morn was about to talk in any on-screen DS9 episode, the writers escaped the display of it at the last second. Although the escapes only occurred approximately 3 times in the entire DS9 series, those in themselves show the significance of my belief. --MJM 01:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Background information: Actors who've played the same character in 3 trek series

Why isn't Morn listed here? According to Morn he was in TNG's "Birthright, Part I". --128.243.253.112 23:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] USS Voyager set lighting

The following has nothing to do with the Caretaker episode:

• The USS Voyager is only the second Federation starship whose interior lighting changes based on the alert status (the first was the USS Defiant, and this would later be seen on the USS Enterprise-E). Unlike the Defiant, however, Herman Zimmerman designed his Voyager sets to allow for the inclusion of the elaborate lighting rigs necessary to automatically change lighting conditions at the flip of a switch. These rigs were present in the bridge as well as several of the other standing sets, including the main corridors, sickbay, transporter room, and engineering. Additional lighting changes were accomplished manually, as they had earlier been achieved on the Defiant. Unlike the Defiant bridge set, which when lit for depicting the active cloaking device bathed the actors in a blue light and dimmed the control panels (which also took on a slightly blue hue), the Voyager bridge set's control displays did not change brightness, and the "ambient" light was orange. Analysis of scenes from episodes such as "Cold Fire", "Parallax", and "Deadlock" reveal that this orange light had neither a visible nor a predefined source on the set, as the angle would change nearly each time it was seen.

Maybe the USS Voyager page is anb appropriate place for it, if sourced. --TribbleFurSuit 19:14, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2 Episodes?

Why is this episode summarized on one page if it was aired as a two part episode? It is listed as two episodes on the official site also: official site source. Thanks for any response. ZEM talk to me! 00:22, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Because it aired as one episode. — Morder (talk) 00:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Originally that is. In syndication, it airs as two. The startrek.com site lists stuff in their syndication styles for some reason. -- sulfur 00:51, 24 July 2009 (UTC)