Talk:Descent (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Unnamed-named Borg 3 Teaser-title 4 memorable quote indeed... 5 Production mistake? 6 Power Rangers 7 LaForge as acting XO 8 Nitpick? 9 The Borg that said "I" 10 Data Swimming

[edit] Unnamed-named Borg

I have problems with the characters named Bosus and Tayar. These characters were credited in the end, but nowhere in the episode these names are spoken. Also, although the shooting script [1] lists these two names in the beginning, they are nowhere else mentioned in the script. Most likely, these are the two Borg in the beginning which have lines, but I have no idea who could be who. Kennelly 12:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

• I'll upload screenshots of the two. By comparing them with pics of Ibudan (not the pic that is on his page at the moment, that's his alias, Lamonay S.), the Klingon helmsman of the IKS Hegh'ta (also not there yet), all having been played by Stephen James Carver and the imdb page of Richard Gilbert-Hill one can derive who played whom. Bosus is the one that says "You have killed Torsus, I will make you suffer for this" (Borg #1 in the script). Tayar is the one that says "Biological organism -- Klingon. Biological organism -- Human. I will destroy you." (aka Borg #2). Anyway, here are the pics:

Thanks for your help, I've created the respective articles. Kennelly 15:13, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Teaser-title

The background section states:

"This is one of very few episodes in which the episode title and guest star credits appear in the teaser before the main opening sequence."

I'm not aware of any other episodes that did this, however this indicates that there were. Can anyone point out these other episodes? --Alan del Beccio 15:55, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, there were no other episodes that did that.– Enterprise1981 15:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] memorable quote indeed...

"Transmit another copy of Starfleet's ship recognition protocols, and tell them to read it this time!"

- Picard to Worf after a false alarm.

Now, I just may have a case of Scott Bakula swiss cheese memory, but this was recently on spike, I saw it, and realy dont remember the quote. Can this be verified? --Six of Six _{Talk Ω} 12:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The quote is indeed in this episode. The time code for it on the DVD is 19:10. The quote is somewhat inacurate. The whole sentice is "Mr. Worf, acknowledge the signal from New Berlin and transmit another copy of Starfleet's ship recongnition protocols, and tell them to read it this time!" I will alter the main page to reflect just the part stated above. --Willie 15:38, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Super. As long as its verified. --Six of Six _{Talk Ω} 04:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Production mistake?

Tom Morga played the Borg who is killed by Data (and later the holographic duplicate). In the scene where the two Borg appeared on the Bridge it is him again (together with Dennis Madalone). A few shots later this is Brian J. Cousins. Mistake ?? or double part ?? – Tom 18:05, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Power Rangers

The building that the rogue Borg make their headquarters in is the same building from the original Power Rangers series, where Zordon's disembodied floating head, and Alpha V were.

--I knew i recognised this building. Is it a real building?

[edit] LaForge as acting XO

Besides "Hide and Q," this was the only episode where Geordi was seen occupying one of the center seats next to Picard. This was the case both times Riker was off the ship leading an Away Team. Was there any explanation as to why this was not done in any other episodes? – Enterprise1981 19:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nitpick?

In this episode Data says "I believe I've experienced my first emotion". However, in the episode Deja Q Data experiences a brief moment of laughter, which he then describes as "a wonderful... feeling".

This sounds an awful lot like nitpickery. I just commented on similar note; if this one stays, the "Virtuoso" one should be re-added. --From Andoria with Love 11:39, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Borg that said "I"

"I will make you suffer for this" and I thought the Borg doesn't have first person singular in their language. 75.15.126.52 19:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

That was the entire point of this arc, rogue borg with individuality and emotion... --OuroborosCobra ^talk 19:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Data Swimming

When Geordi is reminiscing with Data, he mentions an event where Data attempted to swim in a lake, sank to the bottom, and had to walk underwater back to the shore. This seems to contradict with what we later see in Insurrection where data "can be used as a flotation device"

For all we know, Data upgraded himself. Remember that initially, Data did sink to the bottom in Insurrection, and later used the ability to float. Probably was an upgrade. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 00:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)