Talk:Distant Origin (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Computer System: Bits or Quads? 3 Hogan?

"The plight of Gegen and his promotion of the Distant Origin Theory, and being labeled a heretic in his battle against established doctrine, is in all likelihood an allegory of Galileo's fight against the Catholic Church's belief in a geocentric model of the solar system."

While a valid comparison, I think the allegory here is more of a comparison of Darwin's fight against established thinking to get his theory of evolution accepted (and later, the Scopes trial, etc.) -- Renegade54 19:24, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

There are many more parallels between Galileo and Gegen then there are between Darwin and Gegen. I think you're misled by the fact that the Voth are portrayed as evolved dinosaurs: the show (somewhat ironically) presents evolution as a concept which is not disputed by either humans or Voth (except for the part where a common ancestry implies a distant planet of origin). Of course, the general theme is the conflict between science and religious doctrine, so the episode can be applied to both, but the story of a scientist questioning established doctrine and being forced to recant by the religious authorities is much closer to Galileo's than to Darwin's. 82.92.119.11 11:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

The reference is irrelevant, improperly worded, false, and unacceptable. It has been deleted... -<unsigned>

...and has since been re-added. Thank you for playing! --From Andoria with Love 20:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Chakotay mentions during the trial that Voyager's database has a record of Earth's fossil history and that the common genetic markers are in numerous Earth species. This was discovered by the Doctor's investigations on Voyager -- and Chakotay was kidnapped before this research started and isolated from the crew until after the trial. It doesn't seem likely he could have come to this conclusion independently.

The article as it is is not accurate. The Catholic Church didn't have a belief in a geocentric universe, and had actually funded folks like Copernicus in research opposing the idea of geocentrism. I believe that the statement of the allegory is valid. There certainly seems to be an allegory to the situation between the Catholic Church and Galileo, but I think it does need to be slightly reworded in order to fit in line with history. Lazerlike42 22:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Computer System: Bits or Quads?

I was just watching the episode, and noticed that it was mentioned that Voyagers computer database is "in simple binary". This seems a direct conflict with VOY: "Future's End" when they have to convert to handle Binary. This was mentioned in that episodes talk page. Is there any more evidence one way or the other for Voyagers computer system? Considering they are always referring to information in ??quads (gigaquads, kiloquads), I would have to say that this was the error. Thoughts? -- Kooky 21:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hogan?

It's mentioned here (and a few other places, notably the article on Hogan) that the bones the Voth found were that of Hogan, but this seems to be extrapolation on MA's part. It is proven that they were human, and that it was a crewman of the USS Voyager (and these two points are critical plot points as well), as well as that a gold engineering uniform was found there (doesn't necessarily mean that the uniform belonged to the owner of the skeleton as well, but as there were no other skeletons mentioned it's a reasonable assumption). The cave does look similar to that of the one on Hakon IV where Hogan met his end, but it could be just a reused set; I'm sure that Hogan wasn't the only Voyager crewman (even in the engineering division) who died in a cave, either on or off-screen, to that point. What has made MA come to the conclusion that it is Hogan's bones when this is never stated in canon? --The Time Traveller 23:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Info from the scripts which then also appeared in the "Star Trek Encyclopedia". --Jörg 05:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

There is another Voyager crewmember who died - Tuvok's companion when he visited the planet where the people age in reverse. It could have been him. Avengah 14:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)