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All discussion prior to 2006-Jul-01 was from when this page was the USS Enterprise disambiguation. When that page was moved here, and then recreated, none of the discussion was germane to what this page is now (the history of ships named Enterprise). Therefore all said discussion was moved to the new Talk:USS Enterprise page (which is what it the comments were all about in the first place.) —MJBurrageTALK • 00:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Headache

Ahh!?! What on Alpha Yaddayadda III is going on on this page? It's part Real-world POV and part in-Trek, it's got a new form of Trek speculation I have never seen before, speculation on the real future: the Enterprise (aircraft carrier) is going to be decommission in 2013 and replaced with another ship named Enterprise? We don't know if the ship was/will (obviously I hope not) destroyed in the Iraq War. Then we've got the Wikipedia citation-style used, which we don't use on MA. So besides the Pna-inaccurate, there should probably also be a pna-unformatted. - AJ Halliwell 06:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I had used the footnotes for dates that were apocryphal, because I thought it read and flowed better in this context, while still being clear on what was cannon. That being said I have no problem with your changes in that respect.
As for the next carrier Enterprise, given the CVN-65's commissioning date, it is to be expected that it's service would end in Trek's history as it is scheduled to in our near future. Given the high likelihood of the US Navy commissioning another Enterprise carrier, and the importance of that future carriers service lifetime in Trek's history (WWIII etc.) I thought it should at least be mentioned as a note. (which is why it was indented and italicized)
The listing that I was unsure of including (and still am) was the VSS Enterprise, since Trek’s history was already past this level by then. —MJBurrageTALK • 09:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Great opening quote by the way. —MJBurrageTALK • 09:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I made some changes that I hope are considered to be improvements. —MJBurrageTALK • 17:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Just added the Union Army Balloon Corps Enterprise with a note. I mulled over putting it in the background and/or apocrypha section, but as it is real-world history and therefore likely Trek history, and germane to the topic, and interesting, I put it chronological order pending feedback. —MJBurrageTALK • 16:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Aparently the Civil War ballons were mentioned in (TOS: "The Savage Curtain") —MJBurrageTALK • 16:30, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-canon removal

Any ships, dates, events, and fine details that were not established within Star Trek canon still need to be removed. --From Andoria with Love 04:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Enterprise-F

Can we not assume that there is an Enterprise-F? After all, there's a J, and between E and J is F... 198.96.32.149 20:32, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

We can't even assume that there is an Enterprise-J. The timeline we saw it in ceased to exist with the defeat of the Sphere Builders in the 22nd century. Therefore, we no longer have proof of an Enterprise-J existing in the favored timeline, or an "F" for that matter. --OuroborosCobra talk 20:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] USS Enterprise (CVN-65)

I believe not only was USS Enterprise (CVN-65) one of the earliest nuclear-powered carriers, but was *the* first nuclear-powered carrier (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28CVN-65%29 sorry can't read the Captcha).

    • The first line in the CVN-65 wikipedia article makes this pretty clear: "The USS Enterprise (CVN-65), formerly CVA(N)-65, is the world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and the eighth U.S. Naval vessel to bear the name."