Talk:Fan publications

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[edit] Moved from Vfd

As Heartless as I don't want to sound, this doesn't seem like it belongs on MA. I understand it's clearly a heavy parody of Star Trek (not subtle in the least bit by the way) but as at least one of the covers advertises: An Unauthorized Parody. I can see us having a section of it, on the parody page, and links to another site dedicated to it if possible: but having an entire series guide seems ridiculous! Can we "trans-wiki" (move) this to a Wikipedia article, and just link to that? - AJ Halliwell 09:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the parodies page is getting rather deep with articles-- currently 33 different subsections. I wonder if we should start disassembling it into Star Trek parodies (television) (or rather yet, separate the cartoon tv parodies from the live action tv parodies), Star Trek parodies (films), and Star Trek parodies of literature, or comics or novels or however you want to put it, then perhaps merge this with that. --Alan del Beccio 00:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• • I've moved this to "Star Trek parodies (Star Wreck)" -- would this be a good contrivance to split up the growing parody page? -- Captain M.K.B. 06:04, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be moved to Star Trek parodies (literature) or something similar as Alan suggested, with any other book parodies currently on the Star Trek parodies page moved there. Likewise, the parodies page should be seperated into movies, television, etc. --From Andoria with Love 00:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:List of Star Trek technical manuals

This page already exists as reference works. --Alan del Beccio 01:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It appears that most of the releases listed here are fanon works. Just as an aside. -- Sulfur 02:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that my list has a large number of things not listed on this page. The list you mention only seem to cover the officially published books. My also contains the fan produced works that have been published over the years. --Jackillsfrm

In that case, fan produced items should logically go with the other fan produced things (such as episodes, fiction, games, etc). -- Sulfur 02:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

But this is an all inclusive list that simple collects technical manuals to show what has been produced over the years.Jackill 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Memory Alpha policy on fanon.--Alan del Beccio 02:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the merge. Also, I don't think it's necessary to include information like publishing year and format on the reference works page as long as it's found on the indivual pages itself. Oh, and of course separte the fanon stuff. Kennelly 21:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Not going to be merged. Going to be converted to a fan tech manuals page. In time. -- Sulfur 02:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:List of Star Trek Blueprints

Star Trek Blueprints already exists. As well, the minibios contained within, in most cases, can merge with those author's articles. --Alan del Beccio 01:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It appears that almost all of these are fanon "publications" too. Just as an aside. -- Sulfur 02:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that my list has a large number of things not listed on this page. The list you mention only seem to cover the officially published books. My also contains the fan produced works that have been published over the years. I think that this is a stand alone page that does not need to be merged --Jackillsfrm

Fanon content is not allowed per Memory Alpha policy.--Alan del Beccio 02:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I missed that please destroy this page, sorry for taking up your timeJackill 02:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

True it is mostly fanon content, but the list is really extensive and informative -- even if only to tell a licensed product apart from a fanon designed when using ebay. Content like this does belong here which -- in my opinion -- is all too similar to Fan publications and alike. Because it's going to be deleted in Wikipedia the content should be moved to some Star Trek themed page. It needs format, but merging it with an actual licensed product is not a wise decision. Better move it to Fan created blueprints or similar. -- Kobi 10:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I would agree. Definitely should be a fan page. The original suggestion was the real one, because it was not obvious that these were fan productions. The page(s) both need a lot of work to make them acceptable though. -- Sulfur 11:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

If this page and its sister page "List of Star Trek Technical Manuals" remain here I would over time work on adding a thumbnail picture for each of the books/blueprints. I think that the pages can stand on there own and do not need to be merged. Part of the beauty of these pages is the simplicity of the format. A person could easily look up an item on the list. The page Fan publications has only a few of the books/blueprints I have listed but they have more detail for each. I do not have a problem with it being listed as Fan created blueprints since the only purpose of the list is for information for the trek community. This is information that I wanted to share, if it is listed as fan produced it would not conflict with the canon position of the site.Jackill 05:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

If in indeed it is kept, then the format does need work. Not that I'm suggesting attacking these as yet after all... but the second list at the bottom does not appear to be in any order in particular. Any properly licensed items in the lists should be linked to. Whether they have thumbnails? I'm not convinced, especially since 90% of the entries on there are fanon releases. I personally think that those items, if we list them here, should only be listed, and no more. -- Sulfur 11:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The only reason for the long Reference list on the bottom is that was one of the hoops that I was asked to do over at Wiki. It is almost an exact copy of the information in the table. The Reference list is not in any particular order since it was just a copy of the list above I actually mixed up the order to make it look different, to reduce the visual redundancy. The only addition that the bottom list has is the inclusion of the publisher (if one was listed). If you do not want thumbnails that is OK with meJackill 14:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Probably renaming this article as "fan blueprints" and making it fall under the fan fiction and fan publications articles' umbrellas. -- Captain M.K.B. 05:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)