Talk:Female Changeling

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Contents 1 Her humanoid appearance 2 Female Changeling's name 3 The Founder's writing style 4 Apocrypha 5 inconsistency of article title 6 Also played by...

[edit] Her humanoid appearance

Odo looks like a burn victim because he tries unsuccessfully to mimic the Bajoran nose. We know that more skilled changelings can mimic Klingons, humans, etc without flaw.

So why does Female Changeling go for the burn victim look? Also, Laas goes for this same look, more or less. Why? Laas should have gone for either the Martok look or the Vulcan captain look.

a. For some reason, the burn victim look is the easiest most natural look for changelings to do.

b. The producers wanted to use the same make-up to make it easy for the audience to understand that Odo and the Founders are the same race.

– The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.64.220.172 (talk).

[edit] Female Changeling's name

I don't know why, but the idea of the female changeling SIGNING her name on the peace accord at the end of the series just doesn't sit well with me. Something about the idea of HER holding a pen and SIGNING! What name did she sign I wonder?!!!! – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.94.149.27 (talk).

She may have a designation that we are uncertain of. Each changeling has their own consciousness, so they must have something to call each other or she could've signed on behalf of all changelings (Meaning that she signed as all, the collective.) - Adm. Enzo Aquarius 22:38, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)

According to "Behind the Lines", when Odo asked the Female Changeling if she had a name, she went on and on about how changelings aren't individuals, and the link's great and so on. So that episode seems to imply that she doesn't have a name. I always assumed that she signed "...in the name of the Dominion" or something. The Federation might have already given her some kind of criminal registry to sign with, or they could have some designation for unnamed people, which I'm sure had to have been encountered before.--Tim Thomason 02:29, 29 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I always called her Salami Woman because that's what the name Salome Jens made me think of. S'pose that doesn't help much in this conversation though... Basically, yeah, she's just M. Noh Body. --Broik 02:36, 29 Oct 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Founder's writing style

The "odd writing style" the Female Changeling displays in "What You Leave Behind" isn't all that odd. Many left-handed people curl their hands around the stylus when they write, myself included. Rather than inventing a deliberately alien mannerism for the role, it's far more likely that Salome Jens simply writes that way in real life. --Jimsmith 05:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apocrypha

Could someone familiar with Worlds of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Volume 3 add some info on her rescue in that novel by Taran'atar? --When it rains... it pours 11:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

You might want to re-read that book. Taran'atar doesn't rescue her. But, yeah, I'll add something about it. Willie 11:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I think either that section or the section on canon needs to be rewritten since it implies the information that Odo introduced her to..."solid intimacy" only appeared in the novels whereas in fact it is stated in "Favour the Bold". – Skteosk 14:24, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] inconsistency of article title

The title of the article is "*Female* Changing", yet the info box lists her/its gender as "none". Someone should resolve this inconsistency. Either her gender is female, or it has no gender and the name of the article is incorrect. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.97.183.31 (talk).

She was called the Female Changeling according to scripts and such. As such changelings don't have a gender as far as we know. Morder 15:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

The feminine article is used to refer to "her" in plenty of onscreen dialogs, too. That's justification enough to call "her" character "Female Changeling". Anyway, it's "Female Changeling" and not "Laas", "Odo", "Martok (changeling)", or any of the other various changeling characters. Which Changeling? The "female" one. That is all. SennySix 21:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

In "What You Leave Behind" the character is called the "female shapeshifter" in the opening credits. Why is it that the article chooses to call her the female changeling? Are title credits considered a canon source? I don't recall the name "female changeling ever being spoken on the show. (Vince 16:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC))

The species are called Changelings consistently throughout the show. "Shapeshifter" is something of an epithet. If this wasn't a major character, she'd be on the Unnamed Changelings page because that's the species name. At any rate, in my opinion the article pages should reflect the credits, and we could list this detail here on this page under Background. Still, I think "Female Changeling" is the right name for this article because of the species name. --TribbleFurSuit 17:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree entirely. I'll put in a note in background info, but I'm sure what I put in will undego many edits. (132.3.9.68 04:53, 8 December 2008 (UTC))

Hey why was my background info removed? (132.3.9.68 06:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC))

Since she was referred to as both "Female Changeling" and "Female Shapeshifter," we just put both names at the top. That pretty much covers it, I think; a background note further explaining that she was also referred to as a "Female Shapeshifter" shouldn't be necessary. --From Andoria with Love 19:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

She was referred to as "the female changeling" by Weyoun 6 in Treachery, Faith, and the Great River. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.176.243.210 (talk).

...and "Favor the Bold". --Alan 14:08, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

on most episodes its simply "and Salome Jems" with no name given to the character. Female changling seems to be simply what those on the station refer to her as as its the only way to describe her and as she's the only one who seems to have taken female form in their presence that makes sense. 82.41.88.252 10:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Also played by...

It was added in the infobox that Nana Visitor also played the Changeling in the form of Nana Visitor. Am I the only one who finds this completely unnecessary? For one, I'm sure the Female Changeling changed into a few other characters, are we to add all of those actors? Also, if we add that here, are we to also add that Odo was also played by Salome Jens? Are to also add that The Doctor was also played by Jeri Ryan, Roxann Dawson, Robert Beltran, Kate Mulgrew, and probably several others. Ok, sure, we say that James T. Kirk was also played by Sandra Smith, so I guess there is precedent. I still don't think listing things like this are necessary, though, especially for characters like The Doctor who would have a bunch of additional actors listed on his infobox. --From Andoria with Love 09:48, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that the case of Kirk is different, as Kirk was actually in another person's body. In the case of the Doc and the Changeling, they only took on the form of another person and pretended to be them, they were not actually that person. For example, when she changed into Kira, she was not Kira, she was just pretending to be her. That's not the actress "playing" Kira.--31dot 11:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)