Talk:HMS Enterprize

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1) According to the Memory Alpha page on the United Kingdom, the UK was formed in 1709. Therefore the HMS Enterprise (l'Enterprise captured in May 1707, according to "History of the Vessel Enterprise", Ronald M Roden Jr, Intergalactic Press, 1992) would have been an English ship, not a British one.

2) This HMS Enterprise was not spelt with a 'z' (same ref). The first HMS Enterprize was a 5th rated vessel built in 1709 at Lock, Plymouth (same ref).

3) This Enterprise was not the first of her name. In 1587, Enterprise of England sailed with Drake (same ref), with two other HMS Enterprise's (still no 'z') following in 1616 and 1639 (same ref)

I'd suggest an update if these facts can be verified.

I'm not sure about the MA information, but the United Kingdom was formed in 1801 when Great Britain and Ireland were unified. The country's full title was "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland." Great Britain came into existence in 1707 when the Scottish and English Parliaments were combined (or rather the Scottish Parliament was dissolved in favor of the English one). So the HMS Enterprise could have initially been an English ship, but would have been considered a "British Ship" after the union of Parliaments, which happened that same year. However, as early as 1602 James I of England referred to himself as "King of Great Brittaine," a title taken up by many of his successors, despite the fact that England and Scotland were still separate countries at the time. -- General Grant 00:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)