Talk:Justice (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Prime Directive 3 Blooper 4 Changes 5 Edo guitar 6 Nit Pickery 7 Filming location?

[edit] Prime Directive

The whole reason they don't just beam Wesley up (and the reason "God" doesn't just blow up the Enterprise) is because of the Prime Directive, right? So answer this: What is the Enterprise even doing there? Surely taking a vacation on a primitive planet would interfere with their development. --Roofus 01:07, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, the people of Rubicun III had already been visited by outsiders prior to the episode, so the Prime Directive didn't apply in that respect. --From Andoria with Love 03:21, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

I seem to remember the crew saying they "discovered" the Edo. It's been quite a while since I've seen the episode, so I can't say for sure.--Roofus 07:18, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)

The Prime Directive forbids interference of natural development, not of simple interaction and discourse. Meeting other races does not inherrently have to be contamination mattp 02:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Admiral Quinn later mentions that Captain Picard violated The Prime Directive when they interfered with the Edo. ("Coming of Age").

[edit] Blooper

After the Away Team informs the Enterprise of Wesley's scheduled execution, Picard comes down with LaForge. A little later, he goes back with Troi and one of the Edo. Picard returns with Beverly and they beam up at the end of the episode with the rest of the original Away Team minus Troi and LaForge.

[edit] Changes

Not specifically a "pleasure planet" like Risa. Legal system not "arcane" (hidden), pretty straightforward - break a rule, you die. Appears that the bulk was written by someone who's first language isn't English. Odd word choices and placements. Many vague references. Tried to clean up without changing the original flow of information.– StarFire209 01:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edo guitar

Did anyone else think that the musical instrument shown about eight minutes into the episode is awfully similar to the one Adam carried around in the TOS episode "The Way to Eden"? 84.250.41.125 18:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nit Pickery

I removed the following line:

"Questions have arisen about the continuity of this episode with the rest of the series. Since there is no evidence that the Edo culture have advanced to the point of warp technology, and they seem to show a very primitive understanding of space, it does not fit with the Prime Directive that the Enterprise crew would interact at all with the planet's inhabitants. Some believe this entire episode is a contradiction to the Prime Directive."

My reasoning was that it seemed like a nit-pick, and who are "some people?" There is a lot of conjecture and no citation to any evidence supporting the contentions that this contact was a "contradiciton to the prime directive." --Icesyckel 01:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Filming location?

I came here to see if information was available on where this was filmed. The buildings and gardens are impressive. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.217.222.1 (talk).

Here you go. --TribbleFurSuit 16:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I was just wondering about that. It looks like the Huntington Library And Botanical Gardens in Pasadena, CA. It would make sense given that most of this show was filmed in Southern California. As a matter of fact - here it is. http://www.filmhuntington.org/previous_projects.php. It doesnt say which episode, but it says TNG, and the Lily Ponds and surrounding space look very familiar. I dont think it is the Tillman Reclamation Plant. Whoever said it was, do we know that for a fact from the DVD supplements or any other source? I'm curious to know...– Distantlycharmed 20:56, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

It was filmed in both places actually. From the Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion:

• "Justice" was the first episode to feature location shooting since the brief holodeck scene in "Farpoint". The Edo exteriors were shot at the Tillman Water Reclamation Plant in Van Nuys, a north Los Angeles suburb...and Wesley's fall was filmed at the Huntington Library in Pasadena.

– Cleanse 01:40, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Almost verbatim of what's in the Star Trek Encyclopedia too. --01:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Cool. That was actually the scene I meant: he runs around the lily ponds and then falls into the greenhouse. Thanks. Peace. – Distantlycharmed 03:31, 18 December 2008 (UTC)