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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Stardate 3 The real Roswell incident 4 The Vulcans starting faster-than-light-flights 5 Production Number 6 Question from user talk page 7 Removed nitpick 8 Removed

[edit] Stardate

This stardate is totally screwy - it places this episode some time near "The Search, Part II" (end of season 2!!!), at stardate 48217.7. In fact, some of the stardates go backwards and forwards, placing events at odd times. I was trying to put something about when Voyager left DS9, but I don't think I'll bother, the continuity is just too complex! zsingaya 10:27, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There are a lot of occasions where the stardates are totally wrong. I don't think the writers were too concerned about them really. Like in "By Inferno's Light" where Sisko refers to the Battle of Sector 001 when, if you go by the stardate, hasn't happened as of the episode. Tough Little Ship 11:06, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I have watched carefully the uncut DVD version of this episode, and I have noticed it doesn't contain any stardate (neither 48201.3 nor 48217.7 nor 49201.3). Therefore, the stardate should be mentioned as "unknown". Yrad 16:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure why it would have been in a cut version....--Alan 17:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

DVD cover and startrek.com list this episode's stardate as "Unknown", for what it's worth. Not that stardates really matter. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 06:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The real Roswell incident

Seeing as how the real incident happened in July, 1947, and this episode is shown to take place in Roswell in July, 1947, should we make a note or something. It can't be a pure coincidence that Star Trek chose this year and place at random. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nmajmani (talk • contribs) .

I think that's kinda the joke... :) -- Sulfur 19:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, um, that was the entire point of the whole episode. I'm really wondering at people's intelligence lately if they need things like that or another instance pointed out. Watch the episode people. Seriously. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 19:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of the joke. But my friend, who is an alien fanatic, had to see the episode at least three times to make the connection. I was just wondering if it deserved a background note -Nmajmani 16:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Nmajmani

[edit] The Vulcans starting faster-than-light-flights

Quark mentions that earth and ferenginar would have the warp-drive even before the Vulcans do. That would mean that Vulcans would just have the warp drive a hundred years when they made first contact with earth. Is there any source to confirm that vulcans were childs-in-space as well? After all, T'Pol was on earth only a decade later. I think that qualifies as contradictory. – Maweki 17:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

There are two possibilites. One, the Vulcans were indeed amateurs in Space-Flight when they landed on Earth. Two, which is more likely, is that Quark just mixed up his facts. He may have thought that they were years earlier than they actually were, because as far as the viewer knows, Quark never saw the exact date. And if he did see it later on, remember that he made that speech early on, while still in isolation--Nmajmani 17:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I just rewatched Carbon Creek and Vulcans are (in 1957) conducting survey missions and are clearly capable of faster-than-light flight. I have a bad feeling about not having this confusion/continuity error added to the background information. I also don't think that Quark is that much confused as he must have gotten the century about right and I think that the Vulcans are long enough in space when they are conducting long-term survey missions. --Maweki 23:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Production Number

I've just noticed that the production number for this episode is 40510-479, whilst that for "Starship Down" is 40510-480. "Starship Down" aired the week before "Little Green Men", suggesting that they were flipped for airing, but according to the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion, this episode is number 480 and "Starship Down" is 479, and they aired in the order they were shot. Anyone know anything more about this? – Bertaut ^talk 03:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I was just wondering about this myself. Everything I've ever' seen about LGM and SD all say SD was produced first with a prod # of 479 while LGM was produced after with a prod # of 480. It even says this on http://www.startrek.com and on the menus for the North American DVDs. Is there some reason why MA apparently has it backwards—or are all the other sources out there backwards??? — deepspace93 10:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Both the DVD sets and startrek.com list Starship Down as having been produced first. Memory Alpha must have got it wrong, which would mean the episodes aired in production order. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.130.240.186 (talk).

[edit] Question from user talk page

Moved here for better visibility: (-FC 13:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC))

A visitor notified me that the US Army Air Corps (USAAC) was renamed to US Army Air Force (USAAF) in 1941, so the USAAF should have encountered the Ferengi in 1947 (only to be renamed to USAF later that year). Can you confirm that? Bernd 19:47, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

The dialogue doesn't actually say one way or the other, but the script consistently refers to the base as Army Air Corps, and the personnel (generals, nurses, etc.) as Army Air Corps. Chock it up to another difference between the universes. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 15:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if there are any differences in the uniforms from 1941 to 1947. If the uniforms are "correct", i.e. those of the USAAF in 1947, then we may easily accept that it is indeed the USAAF. Need to check that later. Bernd 18:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed nitpick

Removed the following as a nitpick. Gold might be worthless as currency in the 24th Century, but not in the 20th(where Quark was).

• Quark mentions that "gold is good" when discussing possible trades, though in (DS9: "Who Mourns for Morn?"), he remarks that all he received is "worthless gold."--31dot 16:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed

This episode firmly establishes, via the universal translator, that Quark, Rom, and Nog are never actually speaking English in the series.

I'm not sure how this is relevant to the episode- technically we don't know what language anyone was speaking because of the UT.--31dot 02:06, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

It happened in the episode, and was directly demonstrated what Quark, Rom, and Nog speak. We may not know for anyone else, but we do know for them, thanks to this episode. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 02:18, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I still am not sure that is enough to make a blanket statement about the characters for the entire series, or that the episode page is the best location for this statement.--31dot 02:22, October 29, 2009 (UTC)