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[edit] Removed link

  • http://supernovawd . netfirms . com/Stardates/stardates_and_logs.htm - List of TOS stardates and log entries.
The spam protection filter prevents this page to be saved with this link -- Kobi - (Talk) 10:06, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Types of Logs

I found so far:

This is a list of all "logs" referenced with entries. There are probably a bit more from TNG and DS9 (Seasons 3-7), and feel free to add any else with a citation of the first known episode. I think it would be great to have a centralized location for log entries, without stealing the thunder from some sites that show all entries. Here's the pattern:

I'll try my hand at some of these and see how it comes out.--Tim Thomason 23:39, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge?

From Talk
Log entry:

Shouldn't log and log entry be the same article? Suggest we merge and make the latter a redirect to the former. - Intricated 00:22, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

No one had anything to say about this, so articles have been merged. --From Andoria with Love 22:38, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

What exactly is the plan of "attack" on creating all of these? I can't seem to find any discussion on how this is supposed to be approached, nor why it is necessary to create ones based on the nuances of how the log is described (captain's log, acting captain's log, ship's log, etc). I see tracking these as being potentially hectic. --Alan del Beccio 19:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I started this by myself along time ago. The style (including the see alsos) is simply my own, and I wanted to somehow organize and record the log entries from the shows in an in-universe way. There was no discussion, it was something I wasted a couple of days on a year ago, and thought it would be interesting to do a couple today. There is a clear difference between many of the logs (captain's logs vs. personal vs. ship's and so on), and I don't think it's too much of a bother to assume logs should be separated based on how they are referred. One exception is my combining of "Ship's log" and "Enterprise log" when they both referred to the (probably non-Captain) log of the USS Enterprise.--Tim Thomason 19:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
The only discussion was my original list on Talk:Log entry, but that is it. I guess I'm still "seeing how it comes out."--Tim Thomason 19:52, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I guess it is still somewhat confusing to me in organizing, even naming conventions, because, as you said, this is essentially being made "on the fly". Perhaps subcategorizing Category:Logs by ships, in the cases of the featured ships would be easier to track all the captain's logs, personal logs and science officer logs from the same ship? --Alan del Beccio 20:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I think a template idea would be better, as some cases there are not enough pages for a category. I have come up with about 11 templates that could be used to link together the Related Logs without dealing with the problem of the "See alsos."

Here's an example:

Captain's Logs of the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701)
Official | Personal
2265 | 2266 | 2267 | 2268 | 2269 | 2270 | 2273 | 2285

There will eventually be about 6 of those (Enterprise (NX-01), USS Enterprise, USS Enterprise-D, Deep Space 9, USS Defiant (NX-74205), and USS Voyager).

The other 5 ideas I have are: Logs by Type (Captain's, Ship's, Medical, Personal, Station, Military [thanks], Security, Mission record, Field notes, Permanent documentation file), Logs by Position (Ambassador, Captain, Acting Captain, ECH, First Officer, Second Officer Science, Chief Engineer, CMO, Ops, Security Chief, Chief Tactical, Science Officer, Helmsman, Medical Officer), Ship's & Station Logs (Enterprise NX-01, NCC-1701, NCC-1701-D, ISS NX-01, Defiant NCC-1764, Reliant, Voyager, Delta Flyer, Deep Space 9, perhaps some of the shuttles and Kira's interceptor), Personal Logs:

Personal Logs
Captain | First officer | Chief engineer | Chief medical officer
Data | Doctor | Janeway | Kim | Kirk | O'Brien | Paris | Reed | Seven | Sisko | Spock | Stone | Tuvok | Varley |

Captain's Logs:

Captain's Logs & Starlogs
Official | Personal | Acting | ECH
Enterprise (NX-01) | USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) | USS Constellation | USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-A) | USS Excelsior | USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-D) | Deep Space 9 | USS Defiant (NX-74205) | USS Voyager | USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-E) | USS Defiant (NCC-75633)

Of course we don't want to over-templatize, as I've been known to do. I think a limit of two templates per page is nice to keep in mind. From what I can see we can subcategorize Captain's logs and Personal logs, but we probably shouldn't do it by year or ship.--Tim Thomason 18:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Somraw log

Speaking of naming conventions (it's up there), I have a question myself. I've been using what the log was called as my naming convention (eventually I'll make either make a redirect or disambig at Enterprise log if I can verify or unverify the term being used for another Enterprise), and having to go by instinct on unnamed log entries (based on the other log used in the ep, with a note, see Captain's log, Enterprise (NX-01), 2151). I was wondering what to do about a log entry from 2151 made aboard the Somraw? The entry is unlabeled. Should I make a page at (IKS) Somraw starlog or (IKS) Somraw log or even Ship's log, IKS Somraw? Just a question to be based on others opinions.--Tim Thomason 19:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Logs

Don't mind this:

[edit] From Talk:Supplemental log

[edit] merge with

Probably could just merge with log. --Alan del Beccio 23:35, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, not really enough content to justify a separate page. – Cleanse 23:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Merged. --From Andoria with Love 06:54, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
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