Talk:Melora (episode)

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The following was removed as per Ten Forward discussion in which it was decided that nitpicks were not acceptable on MA. --From Andoria with Love 20:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

It's unclear how a low-gravity planet could sustain a nitrogen/oxygen atmosphere. Planets with low gravity typically have thin or non-existant atmospheres, yet Melora seems to breathe the same air as other species on DS9. Furthemore, Melora's room on DS9 seems to be set to zero gravity, which clearly would be impossible on any planet of significant mass.

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Um, the Ten Forward discussion talks about bloopers and such and production errors, this text is a legitimate scientific point.

It also talks about nitpicks. Legitimate science or not, this was a nitpick, and Shran was right to remove it. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 18:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The Ten Forward discussion which I just read talked about putting things like this in "Production Errors," so move it there if you want, but it's not an error, it's an observation of the implication of the events in the episode.

This wasn't a production error (i.e. costume errors, set errors, etc.), this was a nitpick as it criticizes an aspect of the episode's writing, hence why it was removed. I don't really see how it can be added to the article... while I personally find pointing out scientific errors to be interesting and informative, this is science fiction, so there are bound to be mistakes in nearly every hour of Trek, so there's really no need to draw attention to every single one of them. So pointing out such errors are, in essence, nitpicking. --From Andoria with Love 20:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I strongly disagree. This is a potential implication of the episode on the nature of this low gravity planet. I came to Memory Alpha having seen the episode recently precisely to see if anyone else had thought about this or noted it. And the Ten Forward discussion seems to have reached no consensus on "nitpicking" if that is what you want to call this. The language was certainly drafted in a neutral and non-nitpicking way, so I'm surprised at the resistance to this text. However, if it must be deemed a nitpick, perhaps it could moved to the article on Elyasians with less consternation. I also have no interest in pointing out every single error... but the entire premise of this episode is a species from a low gravity planet and the implications of that seem interesting to me.

Hmm... good points. Well, since it is a major focal point of the story, it might be worth keeping... after all, we have similar notes at Ceti Alpha V. Eh, I dunno, maybe it can be added. Let's see what some others have to say (goes off to get others involved in the conversation...) --From Andoria with Love 20:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi unknown contributor (BTW, could you please sign your comments, and eventually even create an account? Would be much easier to discuss that way. Thanks.).

In past discussions we decided that, with Memory Alpha being an "in-universe" encyclopedia first and foremost, it would be much better to have such commentary be located at a relevant article instead of simply as a "nitpick" of a specific episode. This means that Shran correctly removed that comment from this episode article. However, you raised a good point, that could in some form be placed on one of our articles. Relevant articles might be Melora Pazlar or Elaysian homeworld (if we can be sure that it really is this planet that has a low gravity). However, the note should probably be stated in a way that doesn't outright claim that it was an "error" - I can think of many possible explanations for this, and a background note should inform about this without being a nitpick. -- Cid Highwind 21:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. New to the wiki world, I've figured out the signing thing now I think, and registered. My second draft included a possible explanation that perhaps they live in a sealed environment on a low gravity planet, for example. At some point perhaps that text can be moved to Elaysian Homeworld. PrognosisNegative 22:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)