Talk:Q

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Contents 1 Q (June 29 2004) 2 Slight change 3 Possible New Trivia Item 4 IQ of 2005 5 present tense 6 Are the Q the future of humanity? 7 Removed 8 Is Q based on Kreton? 9 Q discussed but doesn't appear TNG 10 Removed speculation 11 "True Q" synopsis 12 Removed quote

[edit] Q (June 29 2004)

Self-nomination. Another lengthy biography about everyone's favorite superpowerful being! -- Dan Carlson 17:40, 29 Jun 2004 (CEST)

• Seconded. I think you have covered all relevant episods extensively. Good refences too. -- Redge 22:04, 29 Jun 2004 (CEST)
• Seconded. Ottens 12:39, 1 Jul 2004 (CEST)
  • Archived --Alan del Beccio 10:12, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slight change

I changed "immortal" to "highly powerful". Although he may not be able to die of natural means, it is very clear by his sentencing to execution by Colonel Q that he can, in fact, die, making him a mortal of sorts. --The Rev 16:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Seeing as he could be stripped of his power, that too would make him mortal.--CaptainCaca 03:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible New Trivia Item

Found this on IMDb.com in John de Lancie's Trivia section:

Was the first actor to ever use the word "trek" on "Star Trek" (in the "Star Trek: The Next Generation" (1987) series finale "All Good Things..."). However, James Cromwell is the only actor to utter the words "star trek" in the franchise (in Star Trek: First Contact (1996)).

Can anyone verify this? I'm a little unsure. I think it's correct, but I could use some help. This would be an exhaustive search to be sure be absolutely positive, but 4 or 5 "confirmations" would be enough to suggest that it should be ok to add either here or to de Lancie's article. --Topher208 10:54, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I can verify this. Its true. -- Captain M.K.B. 13:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Captain! Would it be better here or in John de Lancie's article? Or both? --Topher208 06:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IQ of 2005

The article presently states that "Q spectacularly claims to possess an IQ of 2005, (TNG: "Deja Q")" but although it does mention that the quotation comes from Deja Q, it does not explicitly state that Q was in fact a mortal human at the time, which is pertinent.

I added the following paragraph, which was promptly removed on the grounds that it was speculative opinion. I respectfully disagree, but I still feel that SOMETHING should be said about it.

Here's my addition for reference:

though that was while he had been temporarily transformed into a human. It is unknown whether the figure he quoted was based on his capabilities as a Q, his capabilities as a human, or simply made up off the top of his head... but during the course of the episode he seemed far less intelligent than Reginald Barclay did when his intellect was artificially boosted by the Cytherian probe. (TNG: "The Nth Degree") – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.163.226.131 (talk).

[edit] present tense

If Q can in theory die (either by becoming Human or by Q weapons), wouldn't it be more proper to refer to him in the past tense? Ddeschw 21:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. He should be in past tense as per our POV. -- Sulfur 14:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Are the Q the future of humanity?

I deduced that the Q are infact evolved form of mankind who went back in time (technically they live in the past, present and future) in order to "relearn" what they forgot - their humanity, etc, etc.

I find the other theory, that the Q are aiding humans in becoming beings that will eventual surpass he Qs themselves as a little "meh". -G

Considering the first encounter we saw with the Q was a trial where they were going to end humanities right to space travel, or some such, which would sabotage that development, plus the general attitude demonstrated by the Q towards humanity, I'd say not. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 07:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

There's no reason to believe that the "Trial" bit wasn't just an elaborate hoax. One of Q's typical games. Q can, literally, do ANYTHING. The question is, why did he pick Farpoint as his earliest contact with humans? Or did he? In fact, how can we be certain that the order in which he APPEARED to interact with the Trek humans is the order in which he actually DID interact with them? For all we know, he actually first met Picard when his powers were removed, then, when his powers had been restored, traveled back in time and did what he'd supposedly done before? That's the problem with Nigh omnipotent pan temporal beings... Redwood Elf 03:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hm...Well, it could be that the Suliban's "benefactor" was in fact Q. Think about that, because while he wasn't directly helping Humanity, he WAS. Sure, he caused some problems at first, but he used his 'loyal' Suliban agent(s) to repair critical damage to not only Earth (ENT: Storm Front is basis for this), but the ENTIRE timeline. Since various Ent producers have denied him being a Romulan or other familiar figure, it seems that it would be Q, simply because he would NOT directly interfere with the 31st-Century Humans by using Suliban as his pawns (and we know Q loves having pawns)...I know that it's potentially wrong, but given Q's history of not wanting to be revealed until he's ready to show up, and knowing that if he DID, he could damage the entire timescape far more than Vosk ever did, but since we seem to know that Q could have saved Humanity/Earth by the above commentary, why not take it to the next step?

Granted, again, it seems purely speculative, but isn't everything about Q that isn't directly stated in episodes, entirely speculative?? I know that even Bill Nye has been suggested, but again, people at the Paramount end of the cord have suggested Q would play a relatively minor part if Season 5 had taken place, so why not assume he's the Suliban (and by extension, Earth's) benefactor all the way along? It is the PERFECT cover for someone like him who simply wants to keep time from coming undone by ignorant holier-than-thou fools like Vosk, he never has to take responsibility for anything he does, and he never gets discovered, not even by "superior" 31st-century Federation-types. Not even they bothered to check into the Suliban's benefactor, and they should have. Now, in one part, Daniels did suggest that they knew about this person (to a small extent), when he clued Archer into the fact that the Suliban had help to begin with since the whole Broken Bow situation...That again does seem to suggest that Daniels (or his faction, which may or may not be a sub-set of either S31 or the Temporal Integrity Commission, although the latter group sounds pretty suspect, I doubt the Federation would legally condone a group that deliberately screws with their own past to 'repair' possible incidents that they end up causing in the first place...) had at least very limited knowledge of who 'future guy' could be, and what he was doing...

Assuming that is true, this again feeds into the fact that Daniels and his 'faction' (legal or not) very possibly knew that Q was involved in the Suliban thing, and decided to let him go, simply because trying to stop him would be entirely futile. We know Q can easily do anything he wants, presumably with any time period, with any number of quantum realities (of course, since there are likely trillions of realities for any given second throughout any dimension/timeline, even Q might not have THAT much ability), but he always wants to do things without being noticed, at first. Once he assures himself that the outcome of his meddling will produce a satisfactory outcome, he reveals himself without pause. Even when Q first introduced himself to Picard, he did not identify himself for a while, and he only really did it once he was sure Picard could do nothing to mess with Q's own desired outcome. Even then, Q was shaping history into what he thought would be best for not only himself, but for everyone else that would be touched by Humans/Starfleet after that. If we assume he's been messing with history since the 22nd, well, that pretty much enables Q to do whatever he wants, which is obviously what Q was meant to do when the writers came up with the idea. We can also assume that because he snapped his fingers and took Picard ALL the way back to when the very first cellular division was happening on Earth, that Q could easily shape our entire future to not only serve the Continuum's interests, his own, but also making sure that the mostly-benevolent Federation would sustain itself through almost every crisis it faced. When our sun goes nova sometime nearly 9 billion years after the 24th (assuming it is that short), Earth won't be the only nerve center for the Federation by then, for certain. Losing Earth would be almost inconsequential, and Q would have basically made sure Humanity DOES become like the Q, even if it takes about 15 billion years...---General Alaric Kell

[edit] Removed

I removed:

Q was to have appeared in an episode of the 5th season of Star Trek: Enterprise had the show been renewed, as an unnamed and elusive character. {{incite}}

There needs to be some sort of supporting evidence for this type of claim. --Alan del Beccio 21:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Q based on Kreton?

Is there any evidence that Star Trek's Q might have been inspired by the mischievous character Kreton from Gore Vidal's play "Visit to a small planet"? In the performance I saw, as Kreton reluctantly leaves Earth, he even talks about returning to the "continuum." I'm not very familiar with this system, so if someone knows I'd appreciate having an answer sent to my e-mail harrynoyes at satx dot rr dot com as well as posted here. Harry Noyes 12:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Q discussed but doesn't appear TNG

I have been told of a TNG episode where Q is discussed but does not appear. Anyone know which one? I'm building my own q box set and would appreciate the help. thanks – galapogosian 23:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

• RIKER: Could she be another refugee from the "Q" continuum?
• BEVERLY: For that matter could she be Q?
• PICARD: Q would never bother with contracts.
• TROI: Or be interested in economic forecasts...

From "Devil's Due". --Alan 23:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Unfortunately this post didn't show up upon initial page load and I reposted a similar question. My apologies to the community. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.66.151.190 (talk).

Interesting how the reference was in this article all along... --Alan 01:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Removed speculation

Now, it's all pretty and such, and it does make logical sense that "Regeneration" ties in with "Q Who", but I've never seen anything from the producers or writers to really actually admit to such. As such, these next two paragraphs are completely speculative:

Q's motives for introducing the Federation to the Borg may not have been as malicious as they appeared. Following the events of 2152, the Borg were already aware of Humans and Earth by this point. In fact, it seems possible that they sent the original cube that Q brought the Enterprise in contact with to investigate the signal from the 22nd century. (ENT: "Regeneration")

If this is true, Q may have actually been assisting the Federation by warning them of the impending Borg invasion. Had he not intervened, the Borg would have arrived at Earth uninterrupted and since Starfleet would have no knowledge of how to combat them, they could have easily assimilated Earth. Even Picard acknowledged that Q may have "done the right thing for the wrong reason."

And, because they're speculative, they don't belong. -- sulfur 11:27, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "True Q" synopsis

"Shortly after Rogers' birth, the Continuum used a tornado to execute Rogers' parents, two Q who had assumed life as Humans on Earth, for secretly conceiving a child." Just watched the episode, and I could swear that the justification for the death of Rogers' parents is implied to be their failure to follow a contract they had made with the continuum. I don't follow Star Trek enough to be confident to make the neseccary edit - someone else please verify and fix accordingly. --97.113.63.226

Actually...There's no evidence for either statement. Q doesn't even confirm or deny any execution - Picard simply infers that one took place. — Morder (talk) 11:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Removed quote

"It felt like something beyond what we would consider a life form, something very very advanced, or at least....very very different.:"

- Counselor Deanna Troi (TNG: "Encounter at Farpoint")

Removed the above added by an anonymous user. We already had a opening quote, and one which better describes him.--31dot 15:48, October 29, 2009 (UTC)