Talk:Rascals (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Young Picard's age 3 Young Guinan's voice 4 Error: Clothes resized accordingly? 5 Quoting bias? 6 Weapon Locker Access

[edit] Young Picard's age

How sure are we that Picard is 12 years old in this episode? I remember that Ro says she is 12 and Guinan seems the same age, but Picard seemed older. The actor playing Picard was 15 years old during filming, three years older than the actress who played the young Ro. If Picard's age isn't known, then should the article really read "twelve year old captain"? --Topher 08:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

At the same time, O'Brien tells Keiko that she looks like she's 10. She replies saying that, according to Crusher, she is in fact 12. It sounds like they casted actors based on their acting ability, rather than their actual age, and little dialog bits like this could support that. Also, Crusher states that they are all pre-adolescent. Even though Picard's actor was actually older, the writers probably intend us to think that Picard is around 12, like the others. – 65.23.90.6 15:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, according to the script: "Revealing that the entire shuttle crew has now been turned into twelve year old children." --Jörg 09:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Young Guinan's voice

Do we have a reference for the comment that Young Guinan was "very obviously" looped? I thought that she was the best of the four young versions (and Picard was the worst, unfortunately!) - which of course makes sense if that was Whoopi herself saying her lines. But "very obviously"? clearly a value judgement - and so obviously that I didn't notice it. -- AndroidFan 00:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed the note for now as its been there for months without citation:

• Young Guinan's voice is very obviously looped.

– Cleanse 12:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I have to say that I specifically came to this page by way of Wikipedia SPECIFICALLY to find out of this young actress's voice had been dubbed. I thought it years ago when I first watched the episode, and I thought it again last night when watching it on DVD. I realize it's a value judgement, but in the same way that saying "the sky is blue" is a value judgement - it's just glaringly obvious that it's been redubbed for some reason. 72.94.205.84 12:00, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Error: Clothes resized accordingly?

There are some sub-categories of "movie mistakes" or "episode errors" like:

• continuity errors
• anachronisms
• other things that make something not quite right in a movie and episode.

What episode error category would the following fall under: Upon transporting in as preteens, their clothes somehow shrink along with them, even though the uniforms are non-organic.

If you rejuvenated down to age 12 in a beam-in, you know how well your clothes would fit on you at that moment. Hasn't this error ever been explained? --K. Shinohara 09:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

No, the error has not been explained, and no, it does not belong in this article. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 09:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

In TAS: "The Terratin Incident", the Enterprise's crew's uniforms shrink along with them. It is explained that uniforms of the period are made of xenylon, an algae. Thus they are affected by the same anomaly affecting the crew.

Of course, that doesn't mean uniforms would have "RNA" which would "revert" to a previous form (It's not like the uniform would grow with you lol). Just showing that in a similar instance, this was explained. I agree with OC that it's a nitpick that doesn't need to be covered in the article. – Cleanse 09:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Of course, in the TAS they weren't shrinking by becoming younger, the space between their molecules was decreasing. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 10:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

What makes this whole argument moot is the fact that they are not wearing similarly shrunken clothes when they beam back to the ship. Just looking at the scene makes it pretty obvious to see that they are wearing way too large clothes (look at Ro's uniform). After the opening credits, they are seen sitting in sickbay, having switched into similar clothes, only their size in the meantime. At the end of the episode, when Picard, Guinan and Keiko are waiting in the transporter room to be beamed back to normal age and size, they are seen wearing the too-large uniforms again, so that the kid's clothes don't rip when they are retransformed. Sometimes it doesn't hurt to look at the episode or screenshots before leaving a comment. --Jörg 14:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Would anyone care to upload or direct me to an image of the away team wearing oversized clothes? I really ought to see this! =) (I plan on renting DVDs of TNG but not for the moment...) --K. Shinohara 10:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's a screenshot at trekcore: look at Ro. --Jörg 18:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quoting bias?

There are quotes from young Picard, Ro and Guinan, but no quotes from Keiko who was also shrank. I don't have the episode offhand, when I see it I'll try to jot some interesting ones down, could anyone who has immediate access to it introduce some? Each character youthified in this episode offered a unique insight into different roles. Picard and Ro somewhat similar since they are a more serious bunch, moreso Ro who captures being a little girl again with a playmate (Guinan) and Guinan enjoying it since she is probably the oldest character and more appreciative of youth (it makes you wonder, when Ro decides to stay young a while longer, why Guinan doesn't also, since considering she lacks major duties on the ship she could easily afford the luxury). Keiko did play an important part too, considering the awkwardness of being a mother to Molly and a wife to Miles, both of which were troublesome since both reacted to her differently for her being younger. Tyciol 12:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Weapon Locker Access

While young Picard and Keiko are in the transporter room, Keiko says, "I got the phasers", and holds up three or four hand phasers. Since Keiko isn't in Starfleet, why would she have access to the ship's weapons lockers? – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ariston72 (talk • contribs) .

Because the writers wanted her to. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 14:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Maybe Picard gave her an access code. Maybe he knew where there were some stashed away(like Sickbay) where she could get them.--31dot 19:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)