Talk:Rick Berman

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[edit] Criticism

The "Criticism" section is subjective, especially the notion that he is responsible for the perceived breaches in Star Trek continuity.--A peckover 11:19, Jun 2, 2004 (CEST)

I don't understand what you mean by "subjective", but I also don't see the need for the "Criticism" section. Why is it not just deleted? --Defiant 14:55, 4 Feb 2005 (CET)

I tend to believe that a "frank" approach is sometimes most prudent. Most Trek fans love Gene Roddenberry, and it is appropriate to note that in his entry, so why not make a note of someone else's unpopularity? I think that the criticism against Rick Berman is an important part of who he is in the Trek world and the overall history of "Star Trek." To not include it would be an oversight. --Werideatdusk 05:49, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

While I agree with some of the comments in the Critism section I don't think it really belongs in the encyclopedia. I have not looked at the GR page but if it includes similar non-factual statements then it should be edited too.--Great Bear 22:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that criticism section bothered me a bit, too, when I edited it earlier. There seems to be a rather vociferous segment of Trek fandom that views much that is not TOS or TNG as blasphemy. I must admit I'm a bit confused about it, and even asked Shran to shed some light on the whole issue. I don't know how many people feel that way, but the ones that do seem to be... vocal. -- Renegade54 23:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing the section on the basis that it is not encyclopedic. Nothing discussed is a matter of fact measurable in any quantifiable way, and therefore are not fact, or even citeable opinion. Leave the blame game to forums and blogs. --6/6 _Subspace 05:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

While I do agree that there does not need to be a huge section devoted to criticism against Mr. Berman, I feel that we do need to at least note that he has received some criticism and controversy for his decisions with the Trek franchise. That much is a fact, and not stating it seems a bit like we're avoiding the a big part of Trekdom altogether. Of course, we would need to be not only as brief but as unbiased as possible. (Are the critics right? Of course they're not, but we can't show either view in the article.) Just saying something like "Berman has received criticism from some fans for his creative decisions during his time as the franchise showrunner" shouldn't be a problem. Maybe a source stating such things and perhaps his views on the situation would also be in order. That's just my opinion, though. --From Andoria with Love 06:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. --6/6 _Subspace 06:30, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anon-protection

In the history of this article, it has been attacked by IP vandals a total of 17 times; 4 in the past hour (of this comment), with two being somehow attacked under the "bot" function (aka "invisible attack"). As a result, I have protected this page from anonymous users to circumvent further attacks. --Alan 05:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)