Talk:Star Trek: Enterprise

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Contents 1 Star Trek: Enterprise reference website 2 Planned episodes for Enterprise's 5th season 3 Spin offs? 4 Question 5 DYK suggestion 6 Removed 7 Original 'Enterprise' Premise 8 Enterprise Title Sequence 9 Background edit 10 2161

[edit] Star Trek: Enterprise reference website

I discovered a helpful site full of trivia and references related to Enterprise written in note form - [1]. I just thought I'd share that with the MA community! --Defiant | Talk 14:08, 9 Oct 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Planned episodes for Enterprise's 5th season

After Enterprise was killed off after season 4, the producers revealed several things they were planning for season 5 and so on. They planned to add Shran to the regular crew of the Enterprise, they wanted to make an episode on the foundation of the first starbase and they planned to revisit (actually previsit) the cloud city Stratos from TOS: "The Cloud Minders". Here they planned to show how the society split up in the two castes. Damn it, i'd love to see those episodes... :-(

Anyone with further information? --BlueMars 21:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

We'd also have visited Denobula, brought back Section 31, and returned to the Mirror Universe at some point. This was all revealed in an interview with Manny Coto, and there's a link to it somewhere, but I can't seem to find it... - AJ Halliwell 22:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Should we create a page, where all info concerning the hypothetical 5th season is collected? --BlueMars 12:50, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I think a background section at Star Trek: Enterprise would be a better place for this, as technically it is completely background information. - AJ Halliwell 15:04, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

That could work, maybe in a sub heading "Planned season five episodes" or something.--Terran Officer 23:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

There was talk about the possiblity of FINALLY doing A "Kzinti" episode. Coto wanted to do it, anyways, and SOME work was done on concepts for it, including a test rendering of a Kzinti ship.Capt Christopher Donovan 08:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah what? Sorry, I dont know what your talking about :(--Terran Officer 03:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The "Kzinti" are a race from the animated series, I doubt they'd have done an episode since the TV series doesn't count TAS as canon, but if you can cite this by all means we can add it. I know the other ideas come from an interview I plan to search for one of these days. - AJ Halliwell 03:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Heres a link to the gallery page with the Kzinti ship and the Enterprise S5 mention. I have an email in to the site owner asking for more details: http://www.glitchwerk.com/gallery/startrek.htm Capt Christopher Donovan 08:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I have a reply back from the mesh designer with the information...I'm waiting for his OK to post it...Capt Christopher Donovan 06:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Here's the text of the email, posted with permission by the author:

• Okay, well first I'll admit that the facts stated about Kzinti and season five are a bit over simplified. Basically, I was commissioned by writer Jimmy Diggs to design an "Enterprise" era Kzinti cruiser as part of an overall pitch to Paramount. Jimmy had been a long time writer for Star Trek, and was looking to add his contribution to the Enterprise series. We were in our third round of talks with the producer when the show got canceled.

• With the show taking a new direction, and paying more homage to the original series, they were very interested in reviving old-school favorites such as the Gorn and "original" Klingons. The Kzinti was being seriously considered as part of this revival. As for my ship design, truth be told, Paramounts people would've probably re-designed it a billion times before it hit the screen. But, still, I would've at least provided the starting point for the concept.
• -Josh http://www.glitchwerk.com

--Capt Christopher Donovan 07:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I recommend removing the section on the supposed Guinan story. Following the citations reveals that it is a spec script written by a writer without any connection to the creators or even an agent. It is highly unlikely that it would have even been read by the creators, much less bought and produced, and therefore should not be considered part of the planned 5th season. An earlier version of the section had already been deleted before (See #Removed) but it was reinstated by the author of the script himself. Rikochet9 14:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spin offs?

Just wondering... are there any Enterprise spin offs? I know theres going to be at least one novel, but I'm hoping for a game or movie, similar to the stuff that TNG spun off. --Jacen Solo 05:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Not only are there no spin-offs of Enterprise, but there are no spin-offs currently planned, and it is highly unlikely that any such spin-off will ever be made due to Enterprise's poor ratings. Paramount Pictures will want to profit from whatever new series they make, so they're not going to create something based on a show they deem as a failure. Sad, but true. --From Andoria with Love 17:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Awe... it's just that I loved this series. Was something new and creative, after watching 7 seasons of TNG, 3/4 movies, etc. --Jacen Solo 12:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I was just looking at the Enterprise NCC-1701's page and I was thinking... Is Star Trek Enterprise the only series to star (that is, the main ship) a ship that the max speed is lower then warp 9? --Jacen Solo 14:52, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Indeed it is. While the NX-01 acquired a max speed of warp 5.2 ("Affliction", I believe), the NCC-1701 and the ships of the later spin-off series (TNG, DS9, and VOY) each had the ability to travel at least at warp 9... and sometimes faster! Of course, the warp factor scale changed a bit between TOS and TNG; see warp factor scale (22nd and 23rd centuries) and Warp factor scale (24th century) to see what I mean. --From Andoria with Love 02:22, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK suggestion

that Star Trek: Enterprise is the only spinoff where none of the actors directed any episodes?

Is this relevant? If so, find a way to add this to some article before suggesting it as a DYK. -- Cid Highwind 23:15, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed

I removed the following paragraph:

Additionally, the El-Aurian character "Guinan" (portrayed in Star Trek: The Next Generation by Whoopi Goldberg) had been talked about for a visit to the NX-01 by series creators should a story be found worthy of bringing her character to an earlier era in Star Trek history — she had been seen on Earth as early as the late 19th century, in TNG's two-part "Time's Arrow"---and when Executive Producer Manny Coto hinted the series would open up script-writing opportunities to freelance writers for the fifth season, as was done for the previous three Trek series, a flurry of writers began scripting potential stories. A two-hour, controversial and provocative drama entitled "The Treatment," centering around Guinan---with Hoshi Sato as the pivot character---was ready for shopping to the show's creative staff for a fifth season story, using a contemporary moral issue dilemma "turned on its ear" by the writer, and inspired by the optimism of Gene Roddenberry's intention for how adventures of the original series would seek to boldly explore "what's out there." (The episode also featured various tie-ins to both ST:TOS and ST:TNG, as third and fourth season episodes began to accomplish.)

This appears to me to be almost fanon if it was a legitimately written script that they never sent. It could partially go back in if there is a citation to the Guinan info and/or the freelance script opportunities.--Tim Thomason 21:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Original 'Enterprise' Premise

Brannon Braga has recently stated here (see post #124) that Rick Berman's original idea for the first season of the show was to have it set entirely on Earth as humanity were building the very first warp ship. Is this noteworthy? If so, where would it go? In the main article or the page for Season 1? - Mada101 01:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

That would go in the section on background information, my friend. :) --From Andoria with Love 08:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :) I put it in the main article's background section. - Mada101 21:25, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Enterprise Title Sequence

I've been looking around and there are several references to the ships that feature in the Star Trek: Enterprise Opening Title Sequence, but not a real world article that draws them together. I think this would be a great idea. Both the usual titles and mirror ones feature s many ships and events that the articles would only really be worth reading if there were photos of each of them, is that potentially too many photos for one article?

There would be less material for articles about the other series titles, but there is some potential: what changed and when? Which planet is the Enterprise/Voyager flying past? Was footage reused from specific episodes? What ships are docked at DS9?

I'd write them myself but I have never started an article from scratch, plus one so dependant on visual media I'm not sure exists. Does anyone else think these are good ideas for an article? Igotbit 15:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Background edit

I took out/replaced the following. It was just too "opinion-y" even for background, I think:

too many fans had been alienated by Enterprises earlier outings and rumors of its cancellation persisted into season four when it was ultimately announced that the voyage of the NX-01 would be a far shorter one than previously expected.

While some fans explain alleged inconsistencies between this and the other Star Trek series with the theory that Enterprise was set in a slightly altered timeline created by the events of Star Trek: First Contact, many point to its perceived loose handling of established continuity as the reason so many die-hard Trek fans abandoned the show. Some pointed to details like costumes and even the design and name of the ship, calling them inconsistent and inspiring fan outcry. While the series did ultimately skew back toward more recognizable Star Trek staples, many facets of Enterprise are popularly considered out of sync with canon.

Despite criticism, Enterprise nevertheless held onto a loyal (if smaller) fanbase, one vocal enough to prompt public protests following UPN's announcement of its cancellation in February of 2005.

The final episode: "These Are the Voyages...", touted by producers as a love letter to Star Trek, was generally panned by fans and critics alike.

Capt Christopher Donovan 05:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2161

"No part of the show was set in 2161. The events of the holodeck simulation took place in '61, but that was just a simulation." And so 2161 was removed as a year during which the series is supposed to have taken place. OK, but, the holographic simulation was a simulation of historical events, it's not some fictional holonovel. So, can't it be included? --TribbleFurSuit 20:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

If the holographic simulation was the only thing in the series set during, then no, it couldn't be added. However, I just remembered that Archer was transported to the founding of the Federation in 2161, so a part of the show did take place in '61. I also noted that some parts (i.e. in "Shockwave", "Shockwave, Part II") took place in the far future. --From Andoria with Love 20:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

That doesn't match how we have handled it in other series pages, Shran. Look at Star Trek: Voyager, no mention of the 2350s (Dark Frontier), 2404 (Endgame), 1996 (Future's End), because the series itself did not take place in those time periods. You'll find the same for the other series, TOS page doesn't say the series took place in 1968, for example. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 02:05, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Good point. Fine by me. :) For the record, though, the entirety of "These Are the Voyages..." takes place in 2370 and did not involve time travel. --From Andoria with Love 02:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Involving time travel isn't really the point. It was a single episode oddity (with none of the ENT characters, to boot), the series itself didn't take place there, just one odd episode. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 02:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree. a whole episode was set in 2370.. so it does count.. Segway

Technically speaking, the last few seconds were set in the 2260s (when we see the USS Enterprise) and then the 2150s (when we see the NX-01 flying into a nebula). So it wasn't the whole episode... but I got what you meant. :-D --From Andoria with Love 01:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)