Talk:Star Trek III: The Search for Spock

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Contents 1 Film talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Early poster 3 Model effects scale and perspective- whacked? 4 Casket creatures 5 Credit? 6 Error in Background Section? 7 "Asian" male vulcan

[edit] Early poster

I have two early version of the TSFS poster. Would it be appropriate to include them? Ottens 14:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Model effects scale and perspective- whacked?

Is it just me or is the model effect scaling off in many of the shots in this film? It's established in the script the Klingon BoP is a 12 man ship and it appear fairly compact in ST:IV. Yet when we first see the BoP it looms over the freighter many times it's size. So the freighter is as big as a mini-van? Later we see it dwarfing the Enterprise. There is such a thing as dramatic license - but then there is the foolishness with the Moon. Yes, the Moon. Look at the size of the moon in shots of the Spacedock. It's on the far side of the Earth and yet it looks many times bigger than it does to us on the surface. It would have to resting on the far side of the Earth to look that big.

Ah, the Bird of Prey Size Problem... There have been several solutions suggested, but it was designed to be 109m long and over 50% of the effects shots support that. Remember, they managed to fit two 13-15m Humpback Whales inside it later on. From the scaling, I always assumed that the "freighter" was a shuttlecraft anyway. As for the rest, they are effects errors and should be treated as such.--Indefatigable 23:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The thing about the Bird of Prey is that in the original script, it was a prototype Romulan vessel stolen by the Klingons, which makes sense, since we'd only seen the old battle cruisers prior. We can assume a few things, the Romulans build their ships fairly big, and with inconclusive scaling, if you ever see ST:TNG or TOS. You can estimate the size, but I'm guessing that a part of their cloaking technology is to make a ship appear larger than it is when first decloaking, for the intimidation factor. This fits with what we know about the Romulans, valuing secrecy. This would explain why it appears to be larger than a whaling vessel, which is NOT a small nautical ship. As for the interior size, regardless of the scaling issue, if you built a prototype vessel, would you bother outfitting all the decks, or build it for a minimal crew during the test phase? Most practical persons would make it able to run on minimal crew, until all the kinks were worked out. As such, the ship would have the basics: rudimentary crew quarters, weapons systems, minimal cargo space for parts & supplies, a transporter, a cloaking device, a command section, and an engineering section. I feel this is justified by the amount of time (3 months) spent retrofitting the ship, by the Enterprise crew & the Vulcans. In that time, they probably added more space for supplies, more comfortable crew quarters, and of course they redesigned the bridge, among other things. Frankly, if you're looking for consistency between movies that weren't written as a serial, or planned events (like the first two Superman movies, or the Tim Burton Batman series) then you're just thinking wishfully. It shan't happen. Besides, it's just a movie, guys. Ever seen various cutaways of the Millennium Falcon? Those vary ridiculously in scale & location of certain places. Then there's number of decks on the Enterprise's various embodiments, from TOS through the movies, and TNG & its series of films. Like I said: just a show. Just enjoy the fun. --Kladdaugh

DS9's own Defiant changes size enough times for that matter. Yes, perhaps it's best just to watch the film.--Indefatigable 16:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Casket creatures

There's no mention nor Wiki entry for the microbes that evolved around Spock's casket. JAF1970 16:02, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

The creatures can be found here: Genesis (planet). --Jörg 16:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Credit?

The article gives Harve Bennett and Leonard Nimoy story credit for Trek III. But on screen, Mr. Bennett gets sole writing credit. - Adambomb1701 20:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Bennett and Nimoy did not receive on-screen credit, though they did apparently help write the film. --From Andoria with Love 04:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Since Nimoy directed, I'm sure he had a major hand in shaping the script as well. - Adambomb1701 13:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

• But the screen credit only reads "Written by Harve Bennett" (or maybe "Screenplay by Harve Bennett"). The infobox should reflect the actual credits. If we can prove that Nimoy contributed in an uncredited fashion it should be noted in the article somewhere. As the infobox stands now, it presents information contrary to the movie itself. Change it to reflect the credits, please. Sir Rhosis 05:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Bennett's screen credit for the film reads "Written and Produced by Harve Bennett." So, the infobox is now correct. I don't know if it was wrong before. - Adambomb1701 20:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Error in Background Section?

There is a note in the background that states: "The Excelsior-class, the Oberth-class, the spacedock, and the Klingon Bird-of-Prey all make their first appearances here. They continued to be used in Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager. The Bird-of-Prey appeared in every subsequent movie until Star Trek Generations, its last movie appearance." Unless I'm being naive, didn't we see the spacedock in the two previous films? The enterprise was in dock in both. Wheatleya 23:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

The mushroom-shaped Earth Spacedock is meant here. That station first appeared in this movie. In Star Trek I+II, only the drydock was seen, a different structure. --Jörg 23:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Asian" male vulcan

we can see this man during fal-tor-pan ceremony... isn't he an "asian style" ??? C-IMZADI-4 21:34, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Yes. It's George Takei according to William Shatner's Star Trek Movie Memories. leandar 22:31, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

thank you ! G.takey ? shatner has smoked funny cigaret or what ??? Bad memory our dear bill !!! so thank you again... C-IMZADI-4 22:08, October 29, 2009 (UTC)