Talk:The Enemy (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 The Commodore Thing 3 Nits 4 Background Information 5 Speculation

Watching this in syndication, at no point does Geordi refer to the Romulan as Ensign, only as Commodore. Is this a result of the editing for time that sometimes occurs for syndication, or is the article mistaken?

I am watching this episode on DVD right now. They do not find a dead Romulan. The first Romulan they find is the one that attacks Worf. He then hits the Romulan and incapitates him. They return to the ship with that Romulan, however Geordi fell down into some hole in the ground, and Riker cannot find him in time for the scheduled beam out. After he climbs out of the hole, he sees a stationary neutrino beacon coming from a probe the Enterprise launched to the planet as a marker for him to see. As Geordi is heading to the beam, he is attacked by the second Romulan...

I believe it is stated that it was in an early draft of the script that he was referred to as ensign, then commodore.

Isn't Bochra referred to as "she" by Tomalak at the end?

[edit] The Commodore Thing

It was likely sarcasm on La Forge's part as Bochra is clearly too young to hold a flag rank equivalent to Admiral in Starfleet. There is no indication that Commodore is an active rank in the Romulan fleet or Starfleet in the 2360s.

Isn't that a bit of an asumption? For all we know, Romulan ranking works in a completely different way to Starfleet, and so young people may very well hold higher titles. Similarly, who is to say that Bochra is young at first glance? Being non-human, he could be any age. Also, while indeed there is no indication at all of the Starfleet Commodore rank being active in the 2360s, is there anything in the episode to say that it's not? --Mada101 02:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nits

I removed the following nits:

• When La Forge falls into the pit his visor lands to the right of him, but in the next scene he clearly picks it up from the left side.

• At the end of the episode the Romulan and Federation starships depart Galorndon Core in opposite directions, despite Captain Picard having insisted on escorting the Romulan Warbird back to the Neutral Zone.

While both true, there are also factors present or not present that the viewer is not aware of that could very well fully explain these occurrences. Out side of that observation, as an encyclopedia, the inclusion of such material has previously been deemed unnecessary. --Alan del Beccio 20:24, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the removal of the first. I'm not so sure about the second, though; it is an interesting point. Then again, it is a nit. So... eh, nevermind. Just... musing. Or something akin, anyway. --From Andoria with Love 06:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Background Information

Picard proposes to return Bochra to his ship and then escort the Romulans back to the Neutral Zone, to which Tomalak agrees. However, at the end of the episode, the Enterprise and the Romulan ship are shown flying away in opposite directions. This ist not really an inconsistency since after escorting the Romulans, Tomalak's ship would head for Romulan space and the Enterprise for their next mission. The part of the Enterprise escorting the romulan ship can be regarded as cut out. What do you think?

They go in separate directions directly from planetary orbit. That means there was no escorting, cut or otherwise. Not saying the note should stay, since I hate nitpicks, but it is accurate. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 19:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

The ships meet bow to bow and one ship has to turn in order for an escort to happen. And if you look closely the romulan shop banks just as it leaves frame. --Rambris 20:14, 2 Septempber 2009 (CET)

Removed the nitpick. If it is a mistake, it's a production error, which we do not include here. If it isn't a mistake, then it shouldn't be there anyway. (Btw, why does Rambris's signature say he wrote it in 2009?!) – Saphsaph 03:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speculation

• La Forge repeatedly refers to Centurion Bochra as "commodore" before he is informed of his real rank. It was likely sarcasm on La Forge's part as Bochra is clearly too young to hold a flag rank equivalent to admiral in Starfleet. There is no firm indication that commodore is an active rank in the Romulan fleet or Starfleet in the 2360s, but it cannot be entirely ruled out. The shooting script has La Forge first calls him "ensign" and then "commodore", as if goading Bochra into revealing his rank.

Although it seems reasonable, reasonable speculation is still speculation. Unless it can be cited somewhere with some source saying that the intent is to "goad Botchra" or that it's intended to show "sarcasm", it should be removed, since then it would be guesswork. The second part with the script difference a nitpick, and since not shot, non-canon. – Saphsaph 03:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)