Talk:The Gift (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Starfleet insignia 3 Listed Stardate 4 Quarks 4.1 Forum:In a Voyager episode, Kes says that she can see "beyond the subatomic". What exactly is she seeing, and where can I learn more about it? 5 Removed

[edit] Starfleet insignia

When Janeway comes to visit Kes, she says something about a "Vulcan master" and "design of our Starfleet insignia" (indicating her combadge). If someone has the DVD, could you review this line? (I was in my "galley" and didn't hear clearly.) Sounds like a reference to the origin of the design. Kojiro Vance | Talk 15:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Janeway was speaking of Tuvok's Vulcan meditation lamp and how Tuvok got it from a Vulcan master, "at double the price" when the master saw their Starfleet insignia. Nothing about the origin of the design, sadly. :( --From Andoria with Love 15:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Listed Stardate

Can anyone tell me where the stardate listed with this episode came from? I just watched the episode again and didn't really see or hear any reference to it. Someone associated 51008 with this episode's article, and it seems like an acurate enough number, but can anyone tell me where in the episode it was stated?– Foravalon 01:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe it came from "The Voyager Conspiracy". --Alan 11:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quarks

No, not the DS9 denizen. This episode gives the impression that Starfleet, or at least Tuvok, do not know of the existance of quarks. Was this episode written before the discovery of quarks? or was the writer lazy? MK 02:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Forum:In a Voyager episode, Kes says that she can see "beyond the subatomic". What exactly is she seeing, and where can I learn more about it?

Basically what the title says. What exactly is she seeing? Please go into lots of detail and provide links. I am a major science/Star Trek geek. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.18.2.127 (talk). 13:02, July 18, 2007

Well, I guess that technically, it's utter nonsense. Sub-atomic would be 'anything smaller than atoms', so there is by definition nothing 'beyond' that. What she meant was that she can see some very deep, fundamental (non-physical?) level of matter, that she can control with her mind. Presumably, this is a fairly common level at which non-corporeal and other super-powered aliens can operate? It may have something to do with the prevalent link between subspace and thought (static warp fields, perhaps the galactic barrier effects). -- Harry ^talk 19:09, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed

Removed the following:

• Chakotay's statement, that "For all we know, Annika and her parents were the first Humans the Borg ever assimilated", is counteracted by Star Trek: First Contact when some of the USS Enterprise-E crew are assimilated before First Contact (although this was, of course, the result of time travel by both the Borg and the Enterprise crew members).

Chakotay wasn't making a definitive statement, he was speculating, so it's unnecessary to comment on the truthfulness or accuracy of it.--31dot 11:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)