Talk:The Ship (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Comment 3 Vigil 4 100th episode? 5 Reservoir Dogs

Do you think its a coincidence this episode's plot is similar to Reservoir Dogs and that Ken Lesco also worked as stunt performer in that film and this episode? -- Tough Little Ship 16:21, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

The idea of Klingons keeping vigil over the bodies of the dead seems at odds with prior portrayals, wherein a corpse was considered a worthless shell immediately upon death.

Is it unreasonable to assume that Klingons may have many different beliefs, even among a homogeneous people? Worf may have recognized O'Brien's practice as being one of a different part of the Klingon religion. It's not all that different from favoring cremation over a traditional burial.

[edit] Vigil

    I think it is fairly clear that Worf needed a good excuse for remaining with O'Brien over the body of their dead friend. That seems a lot more likely than a contradiction in Klingon tradition.

--Ihmhi 14:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

• It would for Klingon in space,but for them on Qo'noS,it seems not completely contradictory on the whole,especially if it were a close family member or honoured ally who had died.Wejvagh 00:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 100th episode?

Article previously said:

• "The Ship" marks the 100th episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

Can't see the basis for that, since the honor ostensibly belongs to "Nor the Battle to the Strong". Feel free to replace, but it really should be cited, or at least clarified, in some way.CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 00:04, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

The Ship's production number is 500, while Nor The Battle.... is 502. It also aired later than The Ship. Not sure why the episode counter on its page says different, but perhaps it doesn't count Emissary or Way of the Warrior as one show each? 31dot 01:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Ahhhh, yeah, you've kinda got the right idea. It would appear that "The Ship" wins the crown only if you count "Emissary" and "WOTW" as two episodes—which is neither how they were broadcast, nor how they appear on home video. And I suppose that's the way to go, because I'm not sure "syndication numbering" makes a lot of sense. It's surely the original form of the episode that matters. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 15:48, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I would add that the DS9 Companion says on page 373 that The Ship is the one hundredth episode, in it's defense.  :) 31dot 21:14, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I meant to say that Emissary and WOTW are counted as one show each by the counter. 31dot 22:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reservoir Dogs

Are the Reservoir Dogs comparisons really valid? It seems a little tenuous to me. This episode seems to be very much about a siege, a la The Alamo or Assault on Precinct 13, I don't fully understand the Dogs comparison. Although having said that, it has been a few years since I've seen it (the movie that is, not the episode), so maybe I'm forgetting something, but I just don't remember seige mentality being a big part of the film – Bertaut 20:04, 7 January 2008 (UTC)