Talk:The Way to Eden (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Lyrics 3 Episode Goof 4 Shots Reused? 5 Nitpick/speculation removed 6 Catuallan vs Catullan 7 Analysis section

[edit] Lyrics

"some of the lyrics are rather nice." Isn't this more objective than subjective? (i.e NPOV)

• Good point. I have changed it to read that they mirror songs being sung during the counterculture movement of the late 60s.
• I listened to many of those counterculture songs then. Still do, although classic rock radio stations are getting harder to find. A lot of them are angrier than what's here, in fact. Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth" springs to mind. - Adambomb1701 18:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Goof

• Chekov is knocked out in Auxillary Control when it is hijacked.
• He is later shown outside. How did he get outside if the doors were sealed off?

Chekov is never knocked out in Auxiliary Control, some unknown crewman is. Chekov is seen in the rec room watching Spock's jam session a couple of seconds later, so he's apparently off-duty at that time. When the ultrasonic thing is activated some time afterwards, Chekov is knocked out on the bridge.

[edit] Shots Reused?

• "Brief cuts of the surface of Eden were shots reused of the planet from "Shore Leave"."

Are we sure about this one?...Eden looks like a soundstage, the "shore leave" planet is an exterior... --<unsigned>

One shot of the Shore Leave Planet was reused, namely a shot of the lake on the planet with the coloured (blue and red) pampas grass growing close to the lake. In fact it's this shot from "Shore Leave": Image:Shore Leave planet surface.jpg. The rest of the "planet" surface scenes were shot on a soundstage, just as you said. --Jörg 21:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm also pretty sure that one single shot was reused from "The Apple", as well. Sir Rhosis 20:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nitpick/speculation removed

I removed the following nitpick (not permitted as per a Ten Forward discussion) which contains an opinion (also not permitted) and speculation (also also not permitted). --From Andoria with Love 21:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

So soon after "The Enterprise Incident", when the Romulans were waiting under cloak for the Enterprise to cross the Neutral Zone, it never really made sense in "The Way to Eden" that no Romulan patrols were lying in wait at or near the border. Given the Romulans' penchant for suspicion, their absence simply can't be chalked up to "luck," particularly for the Enterprise. However, subsequent revelations may serve to explain why they apparently pulled their ships away from the Federation Neutral Zone. The year is 2269, and Kor may have been mounting his "attack on Romulus" right around this time ("The Sword of Kahless").

[edit] Catuallan vs Catullan

The Summary quotes Kirk as referring to Tongo Rad as "Catuallan" and his home planet as "Catualla," yet throughout Memory Alpha, the term is spelled "Catullan" (note the lack of the first letter "a" as compared with the quoted version). I don't have access to the script, so I'm noto sure whether the quotation is incorrect or whether every related entry to "Catullan" and xref requires editing. Femur 03:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)Femur

[edit] Analysis section

I removed the section titled Analysis, since as far as I know it's not Memory Alpha's objective to analyse episodes. The content of the section were the two paragraphs below. Hokstein 21:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

• A depiction of the counterculture movement of the late 1960s, the episode dates poorly as the events of that time become increasingly foreign. Some of the lyrics are very evocative of the period, however.
• The episode's depiction of sterile, technological societies leading to the development of virulent bacterial strains has since come to pass with bacteria that have grown resistant to antibiotics. Some scientists also believe that the increasingly sterile environment causes the immune system to become hyperactive, leading to increased incidence of allergies. Others believe that sterile environments indeed prevent the immune system from becoming fully active thus increasing the tendency for infection upon exposure to non-sterile conditions (see the immunity section under traveler's diarrhea at Wikipedia).