Talk:Thine Own Self (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Image 3 Translation 4 Deanna Troi's prior rank 5 the cure 6 Deleted “Chronology” section

Is it deanna troi or beverly crusher that took the commander test?

As stated in the article, Deanna Troi. Also, please create a Memory Alpha account. Its free and easy. It takes about 10 seconds, and we do not require any personal information; even an e-mail adress is option. Jaz ^{talk | novels} 02:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Could we add a memorable quotes section to this article? The exchange between Gia and Data regarding her mother and the afterlife is one of my favourite pieces of dialogue:

Data: Where is your mother

Gia: She died about a year ago. Father said she went to a beautiful place, where everything is peaceful and everyone loves each other and no one ever gets sick. Do you think there's really a place like that?

Data: Yes. I do.

– Chiltern-bc 21:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I added an image of Data's face ripped because I felt the page looked a little bare without an episode image. If anyone objects, just go ahead and fix it. - Defunctzombie 23:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I like having an image, although I wonder if it would be better to have an image of Data with one of the Barkonians. I don't think we have one, so I guess we should leave this one for now. --OuroborosCobra 23:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll look for one. The one I put up was the only one that I had from this episode, and it's kind of commonplace. :) - Defunctzombie 23:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I added one of Data with Mr. Treeger from "Friends" (Michael G. Hagerty).

[edit] Translation

Data's Combadge is not present, however he is able to communicate normally with Garvin and the others. Does Data have a built in universal translator? (Vince 23:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Deanna Troi's prior rank

I have trouble believing that Deanna Troi outranks Lt. Cmdr. Data when he comes back. Does this mean that Troi was already a Lieutenant Commander, equal to Data, before she took the Bridge Officers' Test? Data is clearly already a Bridge Officer, so what would Data have to do to catch up to Deanna after her promotion? It just doesn't make sense that Deanna could outrank Data.

When Deanna tells Data to address her as a superior officer, she does so jokingly, but I can't tell whether the joke is that A. She doesn't actually outrank him or B. She doesn't actually care about formalities and how she is addressed.Flouborate 02:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Rank doesn't have to do with bridge command. I'll bet there are Admirals who haven't taken or passed the test. The test is designed to determine who's eligible to "serve as a command officer on the bridge of a starship". It doesn't have to do with rank, though for all we know there may be some minimum rank as a prerequisite to taking the test. Also, rank promotions may be awarded based on the passing of the test, though that would likely be at the discretion of superiors, not a direct outcome of the test. So, I think your option B. is how we should take the joke. Why not go read about it? See if you agree with my explanation. 198.49.180.40 21:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] the cure

Am I to understand that data found the cure for cancer with a simple syrup? --– The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.76.60.163 (talk).

Radiation poisoning is not cancer. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 07:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted “Chronology” section

I have deleted the following text, entitled “Chronology”.

2362

Beverly Crusher takes the bridge officer examination and is promoted to commander.

2368

Deanna Troi is left in command of the Enterprise-D after the ship is hit by two quantum filaments. After being unprepared for command prior to the incident, she begins to consider becoming a bridge officer afterwards. (TNG: "Disaster")

2370

The Enterprise-D dispatches Data to recover the crashed probe.

Reasoning: the first statement is not motivated. In the teaser, Crusher says that “about eight years ago, I started to feel like I wanted to stretch myself a little”, with the implication that this led to her becoming a commander. Interpreting this as “in 2362, I took the bridge officer examination and was promoted to commander” is stretching it just a little bit.

I removed the last two as well because a chronology section with two entries two years apart seems pointless. The information is found in the article anyway. -Ahruman 21:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)