Talk:Thirty Days (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 30 Years 3 Photos 4 No changes of clothes?

Paris' use of "cruel and unusual" regarding his confinement suggests that this term in reference to punishment is understood in the 24th century with similar meaning at 20th century United States. Unless Paris is well versed in pre-WWIII U.S. constitutional law, can we not surmise that the term was adopted through the uniting of Earth and into Federation law? Is there any other reference to the use of the term and its basis? Tfleming 17:20, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I would add the Paris is likely to be very well versed in pre-WWIII constitution. He seems to know everything else about the 20th century... --OuroborosCobra ^talk 17:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Janeway's comments when Tom describes his love of Jules Verne fiction indicates that he's the ship's resident 20th century history buff, and she's surprised that he also has an interest in 19th century stuff. Add to that his very evident affection for pre-warp nautical culture, and the phrase "cruel and unusual punishment" is very understandable. None of this indicates "cruel and unusual" is a 24th century convention to me. Kojiro Vance | Talk 19:11, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 30 Years

When Tom is having the nightmare, in it Janeway says 30 years instead of days. Is that a blooper or some other reason?

 It is psychological. His 30 days in solitary feel like 30 years. --Trekker on the Sly

[edit] Photos

This article needs more photos for it, don't you think?--Ultraice 04:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No changes of clothes?

The summery for act one states that "He will not be able to change clothing again for a month." Where in the episode is this stated? I'm positive it's not at that point; I've watched the first half of this episode several times, and I'm sure I would have remembered a claim like that, as it seems very unusual to me. Is it stated in the episode or is it mere speculation? – Izati 17:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

It's BS. EyesOnly appears to have imagined or mis-interpreted it. --TribbleFurSuit 21:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

It's been a while since I've seen this episode (And it annoys me to all get out, Janeway's reaction to the whole thing, but that is a diff topic here), but I'd think that would fall somewhere under cruel and unusual? Perhaps not, but considering the stance on the proper treatment of prisoners that Starfleet has been said to have (time and time again), not being allowed to change one's clothes would fit under poor treatment, wouldn't it? --Terran Officer 09:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)