Talk:Time's Arrow (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Nitpick 3 Anvil 4 Mr Mot 5 Riverworld

[edit] Nitpick

In 1893, Samuel Clemens was traveling on book tours, mostly in Europe. He only returned to the U.S. briefly (New York City) and moved his family to Berlin, Germany. It is unlikely that he was in the San Francisco area at all.--Reginald Barclay 14:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

In the real world. This is fiction. :) -- Sulfur 14:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

There are so many differences between the Trek world and the real world already. For example, Devidians didn't visit our world. Also, in 1996, there was no Eugenics war, and no launch of an extremely large (by our standards) interplanetary spacecraft into interstellar space. Unless I slept through it. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 14:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Are you entirely certain?--Reginald Barclay 15:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I said I could have been asleep. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 16:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but fiction is much more entertaining when it is at least believable (Not "realistic" but "believable"). How hard would it have been for the writers to set the story in a time period in which Twain was actually IN San Francisco? Mistakes like this are a sign of pure laziness on the part of the writers. Say "Oh, its fiction" is just a way of absolving them and lowering our standards. Feh! - EKW

Thats precisely the difference between "realistic", and "believable". It might not be "realistic" that Twain was in San Fran during this time... but for it to be "unbelievable", it would require that he was a robot, or some suck zaniness. I feel pretty comfortable saying that the three people who knew what Twain was doing in 1893 are intelligent enough to pass this of under "suspension of disbelief". Not to mention what Cobra said... it isn't our universe. – Hossrex 04:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

"it isn't our universe" is just a convenient way of explaining away mistakes on the part of the writers/creators of the show. And my disbelief cannot be suspended in the face of obvious factual errors. It is bad enough the writers ignore physics when it suits them, but having them ignore history too is just crap.

No offense then, but that is your problem, not ours. Most of us are able to realize that this isn't our universe, that it has massive differences, like Lenin holding the revolution in 1916, Eugenics Wars in 1996, some really weird stuff with Chronowerx later on, etc. The fact is that it isn't so out there for Clemens to have been in San Fransisco, so deal with it. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 07:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm with OuroborosCobra - after all, there's a huge difference between unlikely and impossible...Caducus 20:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anvil

If we get a photo of the bellboy bringing the anvil to Data, I'll make an Anvil page! :D (but then again, this is Paramount, not Warner Bros.) Otherwise, I've redirected Anvil to Wikipedia. --vorik111 22:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mr Mot

Is it worth putting on the page that at the poker game one of the actors is the same guy who plays Mr Mot? Caducus 20:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Of course. In the appropriate area. -- Kooky 21:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Riverworld

"* The character of Samuel Clemens, aka Mark Twain, made a significant role (well, protagonist role) in Philip José Farmer's Riverworld series of SF novels, too." Samuel Clemens has been used as a historical character in lots of things...but this is a Star Trek wiki. Removed. --Golden Monkey 18:48, September 6, 2009 (UTC)