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::Well, that was a joke (not saying that yours weren't). Even so, I don't see any overly abusive language there, just a sarcastic comment intended to appear as a personal attack. No one is above the "rules" (guidelines) here, obviously, and any temporary ban on anyone would be merely intended as a preventive measure to stop such behavior. Suffice it to say, OC, I don't believe you, and others, comments of late is very beneficial to the site, and you're not really helping by continuing the conversations.--[[User:Tim Thomason|Tim Thomason]] (care of [[User:Jörg|Jörg]] 17:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC))
 
::Well, that was a joke (not saying that yours weren't). Even so, I don't see any overly abusive language there, just a sarcastic comment intended to appear as a personal attack. No one is above the "rules" (guidelines) here, obviously, and any temporary ban on anyone would be merely intended as a preventive measure to stop such behavior. Suffice it to say, OC, I don't believe you, and others, comments of late is very beneficial to the site, and you're not really helping by continuing the conversations.--[[User:Tim Thomason|Tim Thomason]] (care of [[User:Jörg|Jörg]] 17:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC))
 
:And I feel that certain administrators here have decided they are above the rules. They undelete images without following the proper undeletion policies we have on the site, they change categories agreed upon by the community with no discussion, they berate other users for asking for source information (which is in fact a requirement of this site), they perform outright personal attacks (in other instances I have seen), they perform merges against the consensus of the community, they delete massive amounts of content worked on by other members of the community with no discussion or policy cited, etc. etc. What, do you guys expect the average users to not get fed up with this eventually? You say you are not above the rules, yet certain admins violate them any time they feel like it, and I have had it. I'm not sitting down and shutting up any more. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 18:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 
:And I feel that certain administrators here have decided they are above the rules. They undelete images without following the proper undeletion policies we have on the site, they change categories agreed upon by the community with no discussion, they berate other users for asking for source information (which is in fact a requirement of this site), they perform outright personal attacks (in other instances I have seen), they perform merges against the consensus of the community, they delete massive amounts of content worked on by other members of the community with no discussion or policy cited, etc. etc. What, do you guys expect the average users to not get fed up with this eventually? You say you are not above the rules, yet certain admins violate them any time they feel like it, and I have had it. I'm not sitting down and shutting up any more. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 18:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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::Well, this might be a good forum topic then.--[[User:Tim Thomason|Tim Thomason]] 18:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Revision as of 18:38, 24 May 2007

For older discussions, see my 2006 archive and my 2007 archive.


Gral and Shran call a truce

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Wesley Crusher

First of all, User:Jörg was the administrator that discussed using the Preview button after a large series of edits on the Phlox page. Further, five or six edits on a single page is not a flood of edits and demonstrates that I have taken his reccomendation. Besides, I was finished with the article. I understand your frustration and will again take note of the Preview button. --Dr. Zefram Cochrane 06:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Borg

I wasn't aware that repeatedly editing an article in a short space of time was a problem; otherwise I'd have done it all in one shot. The Borg article is so long that it was difficult to approach all at once.

I felt the information I removed was either redundant (why include a list of Borg technology when you can link to the Borg technology article which basically contains the same list?) or trivial (Borg children don't go to school; Borg ships have shields; a dozen quotes on why the Borg are Very Very Bad; etc.). In general the article appeared poorly organized and overly long, so I was trying to rearrange the facts into more appropriate sections and link to excise topics covered in other articles. For example, I still think the Background section is such a big block of text that it's hard to scan, so I personally think the bullet points on the Borg Queen and the controversy surrounding "Regeneration" should be moved to the articles on those subjects. --Jimsmith 01:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Infringment

GEEZ! I am SO SORRY! Please delete it if you cannot get permission! I did not see that! I shall use another picture that I got from Trekcore! – Orr6000 05:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Don't feel bad about it, really. That copyvio notice is a boilerplate that looks a lot scarier than it really needs to if you ask me. I know you wouldn't have done that on purpose, and I'm not even 100% sure it is a violation. I can't delete it, but if it is a violation, an admin will come along and delete it in due course. --OuroborosCobra talk 05:55, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

But wait...

I just read the notice on the askmen.com lkin where I got the Jeri Ryan image from It says:

Please Note: All material on this page is original content, and intellectual property of AskMen.com. Any unauthorized OR UNCREDITED use of this material will result in possible prosecution.

I certainly gave them credit. So I think it can still be used. What do you think?

Orr6000 05:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

As I said on the copyvio page, I don't think that giving credit constitutes getting authorization. I read that notice, and it seems to me that someone needs to both get authorization, and give credit. Either way, this discussion belongs at Memory Alpha:Possible copyright infringements, and not on my talk page. --OuroborosCobra talk 06:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Now I know why...

You know...I always wondered why there are so few performer photos in memory alpha. Now I know. With every photo you have to make very sure you are not stepping on any legal toes. I have another J.R. Pic on a page where I do not say any copyright notice whatsoever, but now I am afraid to use it! *LOL* – Orr6000 06:26, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Whoops!

Typo in the last message! I meant to say I do not SEE any copy right notice on the page I got this new pic from. So I am afraid to use it here. I'm no criminal! Oh, hell...I'll just shut up! *Very flustered* – Orr6000 06:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Abusive language

As you may not be aware, your use of abusive language as of late, found here and here, is a violation of the Memory Alpha:No personal attacks policy, under "No insults, no flaming, no trolling, or any other forms of offensive behavior. Period." Please consider this message a warning, so as if this form of abuse continues, an administrator may be forced to temporary ban on your account. Thank you for your cooperation in these matters. --Alan 09:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Understood, though I find this comical coming from you, considering it is a policy you cannot be troubled to follow. But hey, you've decided numerous times now that being an admin and having 40k+ edits makes you above the rules. --OuroborosCobra talk 13:47, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, that was a joke (not saying that yours weren't). Even so, I don't see any overly abusive language there, just a sarcastic comment intended to appear as a personal attack. No one is above the "rules" (guidelines) here, obviously, and any temporary ban on anyone would be merely intended as a preventive measure to stop such behavior. Suffice it to say, OC, I don't believe you, and others, comments of late is very beneficial to the site, and you're not really helping by continuing the conversations.--Tim Thomason (care of Jörg 17:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC))
And I feel that certain administrators here have decided they are above the rules. They undelete images without following the proper undeletion policies we have on the site, they change categories agreed upon by the community with no discussion, they berate other users for asking for source information (which is in fact a requirement of this site), they perform outright personal attacks (in other instances I have seen), they perform merges against the consensus of the community, they delete massive amounts of content worked on by other members of the community with no discussion or policy cited, etc. etc. What, do you guys expect the average users to not get fed up with this eventually? You say you are not above the rules, yet certain admins violate them any time they feel like it, and I have had it. I'm not sitting down and shutting up any more. --OuroborosCobra talk 18:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, this might be a good forum topic then.--Tim Thomason 18:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)